I don't understand the logic behind the censoring in this episode.
They obviously go to great lengths to avoid showing Gon being struck, yet they'll show him with blood running down his face from a blade stabbing into his head...
I don't get it.
But yeah, the old one was better.
Poor Hanzo, to be forced to fight against an opponent that unreasonable under so unreasonable rules. Good for Gon he wasn't a petty man, though. Otherwise he would have blinded Gon before giving up, or something.
Does anyone notice any real difference in quality between the 720p and 1080p?
The obvious solution was "We'll play Rock-Paper-Scissors and agree that the loser has to give up."Originally Posted by Kraco
I was thinking of tossing a coin when Gon was making his demands, but for all his fighting prowess, or perhaps exactly because of it, Hanzo isn't smart enough to come up with such an outside of the box solution. As for Gon... Well, he's not smart enough for anything, being a typical shounen lead.
Not done with the episode yet, but this is beyond stupid the way they avoid showing Gon getting his ass kicked. Completely disappointed.
I think Gon would not agree on the rock paper and scissors deal. He has a chance to lose after all. What made him unreasonable is the fact that he would not give up no matter what.
Peace.
I found it weird in the manga and the original anime, and I still find it weird here. WHY would Hanzo ever decide to take the loss? It doesnt make any sense. So, whoever admits defeat loses. Okay. But still, what would be Gonīs deserved way to victory? For whatīs worth, both Hanzo and Gon could sit in this room for the rest of their lives, waiting for the other to end the wait. Or rather, Gon would have to wait, because the situation would be clear to Hanzo: He is stronger and he knows that.
I guess the only bit of sense here is that Gon is such a pure-hearted, strong-willed, determind young boy, which softened Hanzo up. Still, this is probably one of the worst of Gonīs scenes, winning not through skills, but through, well, ... pitty?
Hanzo took the logical path. It would simply waste his time making Gon submit. He can just win in the next round. He has a ton of chances anyway.
Peace.
The old one was better.
A simple example to illustrate the point of these fights: If you're given an exam to take, say multiple choice, and then as part of the exam package you're given the answers to the exam, it should very clear to you that the point of the exam isn't entirely to test your knowledge of the subject(s) at hand. While the example isn't directly related to what happened, there's a similar underlying principle.
Netero went through some trouble to match people up based on performance (which itself was rated in a non-straightforward way) and personalities. There are a number of things this exam was designed to test. Off the top of my head, these things include combat prowess, resolve/mental grit, capacity for compassion, miscibility of personality types, among others. No test in the series thus far has ever been *only* what it seemed to be at face value. Why would this one be any different?
Keep this in mind also...what do you think would've happened had Hanzo continued hurting Gon in that fight or even killed him? Asides from possibly failing the exam. Do you think it would've been easy for Hanzo to kill Gon even if he was inclined to? Hisoka, Kurapica, and Leorio most certainly would've had something to say about that...
Last edited by Uchiha Barles; Mon, 02-13-2012 at 12:14 AM.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
The sped up version was lacking because they did not have enough time to let you understand how long and painful Gon's experience was. They only mentionned 3 hours, but telling it is not enough. There's a minimum time needed to build the illusion it's really slow and painful, then you feel freed like Hanzo when it stops.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
This exam was obviously more about mental strength than any fighting skills or physical power. The only point was not to surrender. However, rock paper scissors is a fully valid combat of its own, and not even a 50-50 random method (according to some). So, losing it wouldn't have been giving up. It would have been losing honestly. Now Gon obviously won dishonestly and has to live with that fact, burdening him further after the humiliation he suffered at Hisoka's hands in the previous trial.
The only one he would have needed to worry about is Killua. Kurapica and Leorio would be no match for him, and Hisoka probably would have lost interest in Gon the same moment Gon had died. He might still have decided to fight Hanzo at some point, should they have met afterwards, but that goes for anybody he judges interesting enough to fight when he's feeling his bloodlust, regardless of any history.
All Iīm saying is that Hanzo let a weaker opponent win. Thereīs no real justification to why this couldnīt happen over and over again, making him the one who fails the exam at the end.
Assuming he really is a ninja, he would go till the end with the last opponent since he'd have nothing to lose anymore. But then again, he didn't go far enough with Gon, so he's not much of a ninja. Gon simply won Hanzo in the battle of wills, convincing him that no matter what he did, Gon wouldn't budge. If that had proven right, the fight would have been the first and last because the one of them dying of thirst (or some other reason) after an indeterminable time, possibly days, would have made the other one the loser of the whole thing. However, Gon is still a kid so some heavier torture might have changed his opinion. Hanzo simply wasn't enough of a ninja to seek out that limit, especially in front of an audience.
Gon won due to Hanzo being annoyed, yes
Not one of those guys would have let Gon die in that fight. Hisoka *might* have held back if he judged that between Leorio, Kurapica, and Killua, that Gon was safe. If by some miracle Gon did die, that might have been the end for Hanzo, there'd be no next year. You might reason with Kurapica, maaaaaaaaybe Leorio, but not Killua and Hisoka. This brings me to the underlying point of the whole exam. Gon had next to no chance of actually getting killed. There's exactly one person there who would have been truly willing to kill him (won't say who). No one else taking the exam enjoys this benefit. Beyond that, Gon had next to no chance of actually giving up. This is probably the main reason he ranked so high.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
This one you mean? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anDchNrA54g :P
I completely agree, it wasn't even close. What a huge disappointment.
Bitch stole mah link :O
I could have lived without the awesome exchange of speed in the beginning of the fight, but the censorship just fucking ruined the whole thing. Why is Japan trying to market this shit to kids so hard? HxH is not for kids! Sometimes it can get downright repugnant.
Then we can agree to disagree. I don't think Hisoka would have done anything to revenge Gon. Unless seeing him die gruesomely would have pushed his own bloodlust over the edge - though in that case the rattleman next to him might have stopped him for the sake of passing the trial. I don't think he gives a shit about Gon as a person. He only foresees a good fighting opponent. However, a good fighting opponent is not someone who loses miserably under circumstances like that.
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