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    I'm so confused, is it a boy (boc-chan is usually used for boys, right?)? Is it a girl (the subs have Killua calling it a sister)? His father calls it "it".

    Also, at 19:18 Sailor Moon and Tuxedo Mask make an appearance, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Uh...and how's he gonna do that if she starts asking for his organs?

    Saving someone's life is probably right up there with becoming a millionaire.
    You could give it to her. Some people just don't want to. I simply thought Killua may decide to clean up his own mes instead of passing it onto someone else.

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    Alluka's power is nonsensical, even in the abnormal nen world of HxH. It is so hard to believe how it works. Why did it have to be any wish being granted? Could it not have been something more related to Gon's case instead? I know it is a little too convenient suddenly have a sibling with specialized powers that can help your friend, but it is far more believable than having a genie.

    It is also pretty easy to abuse, since the next wish maker will suffer the backlash. They could have pawned the entire Chimera ant population if someone just wished that all chimera ants would turn into marshmallows. Then they could just leave Alluka locked away forever, or kill her.

    If the previous wish was incredibly easy to fulfill, will the requests for the current one be easier? A hard wish makes the following requests harder, so I was wondering if it was vice versa.

    I still like HxH, and it is still probably the best shounen fighting story out there, but the recent choices the author made makes me a little sad. The dialog is still great, as well as the psychological battles, so I just wanted some things to make more logical sense. I did not want to resort to thinking "At least it is possible" for this story. Just because it is possible or can be rationalized does not make it a good choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    You could give it to her. Some people just don't want to.
    A...der? You know you can't live without your liver, spine, brain, etc. right?

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    They could have pawned the entire Chimera ant population if someone just wished that all chimera ants would turn into marshmallows. Then they could just leave Alluka locked away forever, or kill her.
    Sure, if you wanna be a complete shitheel. Nothing like sacrificing a little girl to solve your problems!

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    If the previous wish was incredibly easy to fulfill, will the requests for the current one be easier? A hard wish makes the following requests harder, so I was wondering if it was vice versa.
    Obviously.

    That's why when Killua's wish was for her to pick him up, the next person's requests were also things like carrying her around and whatnot.

    And when that persons wish was to be a millionaire, the next person's requests were fatal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    A...der? You know you can't live without your liver, spine, brain, etc. right?
    Sure, if you wanna be a complete shitheel. Nothing like sacrificing a little girl to solve your problems!
    I didn't mean for them to actually do it. It was an example showing how unbelievably powerful her ability is. And the alternative to killing her that I gave, locking her up to prevent her from meeting people, is pretty much her current state right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    A...der? You know you can't live without your liver, spine, brain, etc. right?
    Now that we know it pretty much escalates, you're best to just give her your liver. There are ways around it, unlike the spine/brain. Duodenum is tricky.

    The point was that Killua would clean up his own mess. And honestly if someone actually asked for Killua's liver as the price for curing Gon, I have no doubt Killua would do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Now that we know it pretty much escalates, you're best to just give her your liver.
    They all seemed about the same to me. They're all organs you can't live without.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    And the alternative to killing her that I gave, locking her up to prevent her from meeting people, is pretty much her current state right now.
    Right, and Killua pretty much calls them out as assholes for doing it.

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    I don't get why you are pursuing this. I did say that it was just an example of how imbalanced the ability is. I never said that it was not a bad thing to do. She just will not be worse off.
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    So is it a boy or girl? Still haven´t cleared that question. HorribleSubs called it a "him", but not a single scene of Alluka makes me think of a boy.

    I´m also convinced that Killua will take on the requests following his wish for Gon´s healing himself. Would be too easy to just make a wish and then leave some future person to die. Not Killua´s style. Wonder how he´ll get out of it.

    Also, I wished Killua would have told his dad about Gon´s transformation. Something like "not even you could have stopped Gon, dad, even if you were willing to sacrifice your own life". Just for a bit of badassery

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    I'm guessing that Alluka is a boy, but since Horriblesubs just rips Crunchyroll, and Crunchyroll uses whatever the official translations of the English licenser is going to be, and that said licenser has decided to just make him a girl.

    Anyway, since they're calling him a sister, I'm just going to go with that because I really don't want to spend another 6 months arguing about a character's fucking gender for, like, the 4th time in this fucking series.
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    This isn't about the translation. The Japanese also has it mixed up. They call her "obochama" which is reserved for boys, but Killua calls her a sister. I am going to trust Killua on this and tag her a girl.
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    So... Any guesses why Illumi wants him/her dead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    So... Any guesses why Illumi wants him/her dead?
    random guesses:

    - Her freak-powers make her a danger to himself
    - Her unpredictable powers and the strange attachment to Killua put Killua at a risk, which is something Illumi doesn´t like
    - She caused someone to die that Illumi deeply cared for (no idea who that could be. But did we ever find out why Illumi turned out to be so ... soulless? Just the typical Zoldyeck-assassin training?)
    - He fears that she might learn to actively control her powers, and maybe she has an active dislike towards Illumi for whatever reasons
    - He shares his father´s views: Alluka is not a human being, not part of the family. She´s a freak accident of nature and a danger to everybody within the Zoldyeck-family

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    Second, isn't it? And not just in past tense.
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    Yep, pretty sure it's because Killua is at risk of dying if the two keep mingling.

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    Yeah; one he learned the state Gon was in, he must have deduced Killua would resort to this. Curious about how strong the wish granting capacity is, as it seems to shuffle around existing reality to achieve the results requested.

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    episode 139 is out!
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    1.) So is Gon aware of the inevitable failure of his plan? (All his loved ones dying when being granted his wish to save Gon, incidentially killing Gon, too)

    2.) Since I´m rather sure that this is the last arc to be animated due to Togashi being a lazy bum, I have to wonder ... what kind of finale is this where the hero is lying down, waiting to be healed? lol

    3.) I found Illumi talking to Hisoka in a bar to be hilarious. Don´t know why. Made me lol.

    4.) Can Alluka PLEASE be a girl? I´d have to question my sexuality for real, otherwise. Dat kiss on the cheek <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    1.) So is Gon aware of the inevitable failure of his plan? (All his loved ones dying when being granted his wish to save Gon, incidentially killing Gon, too)
    I don't think Gon is aware of anything at the moment, so anything would matter to him only afterwards. Killua is the smart one of the two, so no doubt he thinks he has a way out of it. I wouldn't be surprised if he really did.

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    3.) I found Illumi talking to Hisoka in a bar to be hilarious. Don´t know why. Made me lol.
    Yeah. I don't think we ever had too many scenes of Hisoka with that sweat drop and a dissatisfied expression. He wouldn't care if he was defeated in a fight, but getting randomly killed by a strange power would go against his core personality. It was a pretty strange meeting between those two, and funny indeed.

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    4.) Can Alluka PLEASE be a girl? I´d have to question my sexuality for real, otherwise. Dat kiss on the cheek <3
    The family could really use a female member. The cyborg mom doesn't count.

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    Oh, I meant to write Killua, not Gon. Yeah, Gon isn´t aware of anything right now, obviously!

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    Obviously, Killua has some kind of plan in mind. And he knows rules that the others don't. Obviously, it's not going to go down how Illumi thinks, because Killia knows as much as Illumi, so he knows doing it that way isn't going to help Gon at all.


    I honestly can't tell how bad Killua's dad is. Sometimes, he acts like a real cool dude, but then you find out he TOLD Illumi to put needles in Killua's brain, and you wonder if that's just an act to get Killua to trust him.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    2.) Since I´m rather sure that this is the last arc to be animated due to Togashi being a lazy bum, I have to wonder ... what kind of finale is this where the hero is lying down, waiting to be healed? lol
    Depends what happens after he's healed. With his dad basically being in the same building at the moment, if Gon gets to meet his dad at the end of the arc, it would be a real emotional climax to the series, if not a very actiony one.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    4.) Can Alluka PLEASE be a girl? I´d have to question my sexuality for real, otherwise.
    Given that she's, like, 10, you should be questioning your sexuality either way.

    But yeah, they are going out of their way to make it confusing. Most of them call her a sister, but Illumi refers to her as "him".
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