Argh! I should neg rep you for bringing such bad news, but unfortunately I've never believed in shooting the messenger.Originally Posted by David75
Argh! I should neg rep you for bringing such bad news, but unfortunately I've never believed in shooting the messenger.
Too late, I already negged him for getting my hopes up with a fresh post.
Peace.
Fucking baseball
wrong thread
57 out.
Was quite enjoyable. At least even in a purely unrealistic shonen setting, they still try to come up with witty settings and do not think their audience are dumb (should they? this is a totally different subject)
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
In my opinion the best part of this episode, or this exact point in the arc, was how a bunch of criminals, no matter how effective during their heists, naturally starts to fall apart when it comes to abstract matters like ideology, rules, trust, faithfulness, and such. Chrollo himself seemed to be the most out of it all, being the leader. Perhaps I was too harsh on these people earlier. Considering their desolate background (for most of them, I reckon), it would be no wonder if they thought the group the closest thing they have to a home. Chrollo must be too wicked not to realise it.
I don't think he's too wicked to see that, it's just that he has his head on straight enough to realize that the home has to remain for its members. Most of the group does in fact.
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
The home is only as valuable as the people in it. It seems that Chrollo is the critical person in that home. I still wonder if any of them would willingly sacrifice their lives for Chrollo though. That would be far too soft, and out of character, particularly because no overarching ideology has been revealed that would drive the spiders so far.
Last edited by shinta|hikari; Sun, 12-02-2012 at 10:04 AM. Reason: grammar
Peace.
That's a difficult question to try to answer at this point. It's possible Pakunoda wouldn't have agreed to go alone to the meeting place if they didn't have the two hostages. So, she doesn't think she's risking unreasonably much at this point. Some members are sticking closer to Chrollo's own belief of them all being masters of their own fate, and thus they would only seek revenge afterwards. Since, in the end, they are all criminals, I'd certainly like to think they wouldn't sacrifice their own lives for Chrollo's sake. But it's quite natural some, like we saw, would want to bend the rules a bit to try to keep Chrollo alive.
I'm certainly expecting that the situations of their upbringing is going to be fleshed out more at some point to paint the Spiders as the more common "villains shaped by their tragic past".
You think? Than hasn't been the pattern so far in this anime.
Lightning fast, lightning reactions, smart ... and yet darkness is making them helpless?
I guess its nice that they´re giving us some sort of pseudo-plausible plan, but when we´ve seen them do all this fantastic, super-human stuff, it´s pretty unrealistic to believe that kind of approach.
Helpless is an exaggerated description, they weren't in any shape or form helpless. This all occurred in a very short span of time while they were distracted and their opponents taking advantage of the slight visibility they had in the dark while the Spiders' eyes adjusted to the darkness, with the element of surprise going for them.
If they were helpless, Gon and Killua would've had no problem escaping, but they failed. They did do a good enough job to distract everyone so that Kurapica could pounce on his prey, and we've seen how efficient and effective Kurapica's chains are plenty of times to this point.
As it regards what we know of the world of Hunter X Hunter, I don't see anything to suggest that it was far fetched.
Last edited by Munsu; Sun, 12-02-2012 at 03:14 PM.
Yeah, the element of surprise and loss of sight gave Kurapica just a few seconds of time. I think the spiders were miles away from helpless.
Peace.
I just assumed the whole thing happened in that .5 seconds Kurapica said he needed them distracted for.
What other villains has the series actually had so far besides Killua's brother?
Well, there's also Hisoka. I think we've seen the extent of what we'll be shown from them and their past. We've really not seen anything to the contrary with any character in the series, not even our heroes. I don't expect anything more than a few hints here, a few seconds of flashback there just like we've done until now.
But who knows, I may be wrong, but it doesn't seem to fit with the structure of this anime which is more present and dialogue oriented.
Last edited by Munsu; Mon, 12-03-2012 at 11:49 PM.
Which suits me perfectly. I'm not a flashback oriented person, although sometimes they can surprise me positively. If the past of a villain is somehow highly relevant to their actions in the present, then a good story will reveal the essential parts of it. But if it's not relevant or the past is not needed for specific, highly emotional scenes, then revelling in their origins is pretty much nothing but the author falling in love with their own characters or getting carried away.
Indeed. Fleshing out characters is only necessary if it explains or drives something that is currently happening to the story. Doing it needlessly is simply boring.
Peace.
That one girl has killer abs!
Pectorals maybe? But you might be right, it's easier to get to the heart from below, no bones in the way.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
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