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    butterfly guy:
    If you know there's a problem with nef not being able to use her EN and you're the only one that can replace her somehow and you know you will... just do it and and don't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    butterfly guy:
    If you know there's a problem with nef not being able to use her EN and you're the only one that can replace her somehow and you know you will... just do it and and don't wait!
    That was funny because he completely ignored the red devil guy as if he was a dumbass xD.

    Perhaps his En is up already and it's only like.. 50m in radius or something.

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    Was Knov running so slowly on purpose? Because, you know, we always see Gon and Killua rushing from one spot to the next one so fast they become invisible. Feels silly to see Knov moving so ... realistically.

    Pitou is hot, no doubt.

    My biggest observation from this episode: The king cannot regenerate his body by himself. Might sound silly, but I kinda always assumed he could due to him looking like Freezer-Cell. lol.

    quick edit: also some minor flaw in the whole "im such a pitiful girl, thereīs nothing you can do to me that would hurt me haha kawaii": Well, how about "If I lose, I take the life of your youngest sibling"? Bet that would change her mind pretty quickly.

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    I don't think it's like she doesn't care about her life anymore for it not to be effective. On the contrary she's always playing with her life on the line so it's not adding any more pressure than normal. If she was more caring for others than herself I suppose your suggestion would make sense.

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    It's not like the king ant would be interested in killing some losers. He's interested in making the matches as hard as possible. But since the snotty girl is always aiming for victory, not wanting to lose even once, like Bill said, there's absolutely no need to try to come up with ways to place extra pressure on her. Especially right now when she's winning every time, anyway. The king actually tried to motivate himself to play better, for the first time.

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    New ep is out.

    Well, you could say a lot happened-lots of preparations-, but that it was a rather weak ep.

    So Knov is in fact rather weak. He has intellect, some haxor abilities, but probably not cut for close combat. I guess I'm playing captain obvious there, but he was truly the one for that job. Maybe a little too much for my tastes.
    Awful animation on his rather boring crying in fear scene that was useless, we already got the message when he was in the palace.

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    The suspenseful thing about Knov's infiltration was how long it took him to make those portals. Every one he's made prior to this was done via simple contact. He also took out the dragonfly without much trouble, but showed none of that confidence when he ran into the guard. The situations were definitely different, but that still served to make him appear weak this episode. Then there's the whole "getting tired" thing. Killua ran between 4 and didn't look anything like him.

    On that note, Killua pissed himself too when he saw that aura, and Morel/Knov shot him down because of that. The wise are cowards, after all.

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    Yeah, Knov just seems ridiculously underpowered purely to build tension. He's slow. Apparently gets scratched the hell up just moving around. Has no stamina.

    With all the tension they were building, I thought for certain he was going to guy, but get all his exits in place doing it.

    Also...if he can travel between his portals...why the fuck would he have had to RUN out again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    The suspenseful thing about Knov's infiltration was how long it took him to make those portals. Every one he's made prior to this was done via simple contact.
    I believe he said last episode that he can use his own portals freely, but in order for other people to use his portals, he has to build exits.

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    Watching Knov's struggle, and especially the show's struggle, in this episode made me think the author chose a troublesome path. The ants could have maintained their horrible status far more easily if they hadn't got so much exposure, especially the kind of exposure that makes them more and more human like, if not exactly humane. Maybe Pitou specifically has been spared of that lately, but even the king is starting to mellow, the bard type royal guard doesn't even need to be mentioned. Pitou can't avoid suffering by association alone. So, when they now suddenly show Knov all shaken and strirred by nothing but the edges of those fellows' auras, it doesn't really toll the bell. It makes Knov look like a total loser, not the ants look like terrible monsters.

    But then again, if the ants had remained distant monsters, then I guess I'd have later complained they aren't interesting enemies, being all faceless and without personalities. So, it couldn't really be avoided. The story also seems to have some separate agendas by allowing some lesser ants to become humans' allies and the blind girl to baffle to the king. Neither of which could have happened if the ants had remained deadly mysteries like some xenomorphs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DE
    With all the tension they were building, I thought for certain he was going to guy, but get all his exits in place doing it.
    Wouldn't that make the portals useless though? I was assuming that only Knov could open portals. The ones who enter can exit out of the same one, but everything else requires Knov's intervention.

    Also...if he can travel between his portals...why the fuck would he have had to RUN out again?
    I believe he said last episode that he can use his own portals freely, but in order for other people to use his portals, he has to build exits.
    I don't think he specifically said that he had to build exits etc, but your reasoning does make sense. What I remember from last episode was that Knov's master key allows him to travel to any portal while other people can only exit the room by the same way they came in.

    I'm also fairly in agreement with Kraco. It was interesting that they gave the Guards different qualities. Pitou was described as evil, while Butterfly was, from memory, unfortunate? Something along the lines of him being able to bring misfortune onto other people, which does fit his classy nature. The appearance of the red guy suggests Wrath, but I can only think of Dumb when I look at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Wouldn't that make the portals useless though? I was assuming that only Knov could open portals. The ones who enter can exit out of the same one, but everything else requires Knov's intervention.
    Depends. Lots of Nen abilities have been explained to persist through death. Knov's ability could be one of them.

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    oh god, i love ALL characters so much! well, except for the king and the royal guard (though iīd devour Pitou in a sexual way).

    The way the ending music tuned into the final scene of Leol and whatshisname was so perfect, almost got me to tears. so random. dīawww.

    More importantly though: Our heroes are fucked. And by that I mean raped. Knov lost his will to fight by only seeing Pitouīs chakra. I donīt think itīs wrong to say that we so far assumed Knov to be significantly stronger than both Killua and Gon. Since whatshisname probably wonīt be much stronger and, more probably, will struggle in his fight against Leol (purely based on the logic that having him easily defeat two middle ranked ants in a row would be lame), that means we donīt even have to count on them in a fight against the royal guard.

    So that leaves ... Netero.

    At this point, the following needs to happen for our heroes to stand even the slightest chance:

    - There are other, yet unknown hunter organization members that will join the ranks of Netero. Maybe theyīre yet inactive because theyīre THAT powerful that they donīt really care about some "ants"
    - the Spiders come to help for ... reasons. And they fight one royal guard member all together as a team.
    - the Zaoldyeks join the fight. Again, engaging in a fight against only one royal guard member.
    - Ging, Gonīs father, appears and kills one royal guard member. Heīs really the only character i can somewhat imagine to be able to do that.

    Since Iīm absolutely sure Pitou is the enemy for Gon and Killua (and I have no idea how thatīll work out, since Gon, as is, should have no chance. Not in a raw power and also not in terms of tricky ability. He doesnīt have one), as well as Netero going after the king, that leaves butterfly and satan for the rest.


    PS: While I ended up liking the portrayal of Knovīs despair, it was partly ruined due to all the unrealistic behavior before. Why is he running like a normal person now, and why is he out of breath after running 2-3 kilometers, if even that? The very first hunter exam was, what, a 400 km marathon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I donīt think itīs wrong to say that we so far assumed Knov to be significantly stronger than both Killua and Gon.
    Who knows how it was like when he first appeared and looked all cool, composed, and arrogant, but it has been clear for a while he's not a combat type but spatial transportation type. He didn't even fight the ants back before the king hadn't been born yet. He just transported them to Netero to finish off. Gon and Killua, however, have been pretty much solely honing their combat abilities. Plus Gon and Killua are one in a million people. So, no, I haven't been thinking, for a while, that Knov would really be stronger in a deadly fight. Maybe he'd be better at escaping, and based on this episode, good for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Knov lost his will to fight by only seeing Pitouīs chakra.
    That's Shaiapouf's chakra, so it wasn't even as bad as Pitou's.

    As for Gon, he's got his Meleoron friend now so he gets a free shot. I'm not sure how Octopus will benefit Killua besides saving his life a few episodes ago, but I have high hopes for him in the bro department.

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    Gon will not sneakily one-shot Pitou, letīs not kid ourselves. So, do we really think Gon and Killua, even after their training with Biske, stand a chance against Pitou as they are now? Really, REALLY no. And I still think Butterfly and Satan are even stronger than Pitou, following the logic that "the longer inside the egg, the stronger".

    Really wonder how itīs going to work out. The problem with Pitou isnīt even just her power, itīs her superior speed, too. Remember when Vegeta trained for his second encounter with Cell, reaching the in-between ultimate saiyajin-level (aka Broly)? And later Goku training so that SSJ level 1 is his normal state, being less powerful, but faster than Vegeta? Well, Pitou is like both at the same time. :/ Totally imba.

    Iīm kinda preparing myself already for some bullshit plot device, which has to happen unless the author writes Gon and Killua completely out of this arc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    And I still think Butterfly and Satan are even stronger than Pitou, following the logic that "the longer inside the egg, the stronger".
    That assumes that all 3 eggs were laid at the exact same time, instead of one after the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    Gon will not sneakily one-shot Pitou, letīs not kid ourselves.
    So why didn't he say anything when Meleoron suggested using a sneak attack? I don't think Gon is above pulling surprise attacks on people. Hunters (as in predatory animals) do it all the time in the wild. He also tails people when required.

    Or are you saying that his attack isn't going to kill Pitou outright? In that case I agree. I don't expect that much from him. I do expect it to do a lot of damage though.

    I also think that Pitou is actually the strongest of the three royal guards. It's solely my opinion based on the fact that both Pitou and the king have no wings. I'd like to think that their lack of versatility is balanced by simple Nen prowess. Shaiapouf looks to be the most sophisticated of the three (and probably the most intelligent), while Menthuthuyoupi is dumb as bricks but has the ability to mortph into whatever the hell he feels like.

    I just remembered that Knov and Morel were supposed to take on Youpi. With Knov the way he is at the moment, that leaves Morel by himself.

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    It doesn't matter if it's a good idea, or even if Gon agrees to it. It's still not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    It doesn't matter if it's a good idea, or even if Gon agrees to it. It's still not going to happen.
    Do clarify, what do you mean by this?

    1) Gon won't try?
    2) Pitou won't get hit?
    3) Pitou won't get hurt?

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    Any or all of them. It's just not that kind of series.

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