Hunter x Hunter 2011

[Splash!]

Kurapica's fight wasn't about building tension so much as it was about being awesome. Awesome fights are what shounen series are about, in large part. I mean, if you're going to skimp on things because you assume your core audience has seen this already, then why should your core audience watch this again?

The only problem is that in the original anime, in order to flesh out the fight, they decided to deviate from the manga plot and place it ahead of Gon and Hanzo's fight (so that it wasn't simply an afterthought). In the manga, Gon is supposed to sleep through the fight, just as it happened in the newer version.

It seems they really are trying to follow the manga more closely in the newer version.

[Archangel]

The only problem is that in the original anime, in order to flesh out the fight, they decided to deviate from the manga plot and place it ahead of Gon and Hanzo's fight (so that it wasn't simply an afterthought). In the manga, Gon is supposed to sleep through the fight, just as it happened in the newer version.

It seems they really are trying to follow the manga more closely in the newer version.

Except they're censoring the shit out of everything...

[Splash!]

Yeah, the way they censor stuff has me quite confused. For instance, they have no problems showing Killua's face and hands smeared with blood after the fact, but they won't show any blood coming out when he is thrusting his hand into Bodoro's chest.

[antiravage]

Kurapica's fight wasn't about building tension so much as it was about being awesome. Awesome fights are what shounen series are about, in large part. I mean, if you're going to skimp on things because you assume your core audience has seen this already, then why should your core audience watch this again?

Anyway, I was really looking forward to Kurapica's fight being updated and made more awesome, but barring that, there's still the original:

Filler, all filler. The new anime is following the manga without too much filler... The old anime went as far as changing some events so that they could add filler.

That's the difference. Bitching about this is like bitching that DBkai removed the fillers of the original dragon ball.

[DarthEnderX]

Filler, all filler. The new anime is following the manga without too much filler... The old anime went as far as changing some events so that they could add filler.

That's the difference. Bitching about this is like bitching that DBkai removed the fillers of the original dragon ball.

The end result though is that this series is mostly convincing me that it's the MANGA that wasn't as good as I thought it was.

When all the best parts of the original series turn out to have been filler, that doesn't say much for the source material.

[antiravage]

The end result though is that this series is mostly convincing me that it's the MANGA that wasn't as good as I thought it was.

When all the best parts of the original series turn out to have been filler, that doesn't say much for the source material.

The manga isn’t as good as you thought it was because it didn’t have Hisoka and Kurapica’s skirmish? What else did you miss in the new anime? Leorio taking the bus? I’m sure that’s a moment to remember… Or a woundless Hisoka attracting butterflies that follow the scent of blood?

Togashi is recognized by the most impartial manga fans as the most talented mangaka working for shonen jump. Yes, even above Oda. He wrote YYH, and his now on his second successful manga. You think a guy like that would write something that isn't good? ”. It’s true that talent comes with a prize, and that’s that Togashi is lazy as fuck… reason why he’s always taking breaks. But even through he treats his fans like shit, everytime a volume comes out, he makes tons of money. The sales of HxH are better than bleach and other mainstream (which HxH isn't) mangas.

[DarthEnderX]

Togashi is recognized by the most impartial manga fans as the most talented mangaka working for shonen jump.

I'm gonna call bullshit on this unless a mangaka's quality is judged completely separately from the quality of their artwork.

I also love the use of the term "impartial manga fans" while sounding like the exact opposite of that.

[antiravage]

I'm gonna call bullshit on this unless a mangaka's quality is judged completely separately from the quality of their artwork.

Not my fault that instead of buying the volumes, you try to rip the man off by reading his manga online. Like I said, Togashi is lazy. He rushes many of his chapters to the point you can’t understand what’s going on… and that’s why he redraws those chapters for the volume releases… Unfortunately for those who only read it online, you can’t find the touched up version online. That’s why you’re stuck with the shitty scans and with shitty translations.

Comparison (some pages of future arcs, beware):

Find images not from future arcs for comparison.

I also love the use of the term "impartial manga fans" while sounding like the exact opposite of that.

Well, it’s true. Who else other than Togashi can tell the shonen jump editors to fuck off? Who else can take as many breaks as he does? Who else stops drawing for 2 years so that he can play rpgs? You think shonen jump puts up with it because they like the guy? No, he calls the shots because he earned it. Kishimoto, who know, Naruto’s mangaka, bows down to Togashi and asked the man if he could take some ideas from his mangas (read his interviews with Togashi and you’ll see). Even Kubo’s formula is taken from YYH.

I just found it disrespectful for you (someone who seems not to know a lot about the guy) to say that the anime was what made his work great.

[Penner]

Even tho you say "beware", don't post stuff related to things that hasn't happened in the current anime yet >_>

[Archangel]

Explicit spoilers in order to prove some retarded point.

Also if we go by impartiality, nothing is more impartial than numbers and Oda breaks record sales with each released volume of One Piece.

[antiravage]

Explicit spoilers in order to prove some retarded point.

Retarded point?

His point: Implying Togashi’s art sucks.
My point: Togashi’s art doesn’t suck as much as he thinks.

[MFauli]

Wasn´t Togashi´s problem some illness, making it hard for him to make steady lines, thus resulting in some truly terribly drawn chapters? First time I hear about him taking breaks for gaming. Thought that was only Kentaro Miura, who loves them little girls (Idol Master...)

[DarthEnderX]

Not my fault that instead of buying the volumes, you try to rip the man off by reading his manga online.

Yes "guy on forum for anime unreleased in the US that's also the forum to a group that does illegal fansubs" I'm sure you don't read manga online at all...

He rushes many of his chapters to the point you can't understand what's going on'; and that's why he redraws those chapters for the volume releases;

I love how, somehow, in your head, this sounded like a totally reasonable defense.

"Guys! He's just lazy and incomprehensible! That's why you can't tell what an artistic genius he is!"

Also, he somehow finds the time to redraw these things before they come out in volumes, yet continues to release his current stuff looking like ass. You ever think maybe if he spent the time he spends redoing the old stuff on the current stuff instead, maybe it wouldn't look so bad in the first place?

Well, it’s true. Who else other than Togashi can tell the shonen jump editors to fuck off? Who else can take as many breaks as he does? Who else stops drawing for 2 years so that he can play rpgs? You think shonen jump puts up with it because they like the guy? No, he calls the shots because he earned it. Kishimoto, who know, Naruto’s mangaka, bows down to Togashi and asked the man if he could take some ideas from his mangas (read his interviews with Togashi and you’ll see).

Because in Japan, nothing is more important than seniority. He gets the respect he does because he's been doing it the longest.

I just found it disrespectful for you (someone who seems not to know a lot about the guy) to say that the anime was what made his work great.

I don't know or care ANYTHING about the guy on a personal level. I judge him by the work he produces. And from what I've seen, he's a good storyteller, and a terrible artist.

[Kraco]

Also, he somehow finds the time to redraw these things before they come out in volumes, yet continues to release his current stuff looking like ass. You ever think maybe if he spent the time he spends redoing the old stuff on the current stuff instead, maybe it wouldn't look so bad in the first place?

Sounds like good business if he can make people pay twice for the same product, only first in inferior quality, then normal. Much better than using aired anime with heavy censoring and graphical mistakes to market the eventual BDs without censoring and the glitches fixed. After all, people don't pay for the aired episodes.

[Penner]

No ep this week? or is it just delayed for some reason?

[Marik]

Episode 21 doesn't air until March 4th.

Edit: http://anime.webnt.jp/programs/view/55

[MFauli]

Bummer

At least I found out that the new Prince of Tennis-anime started like 8 weeks ago, and I didn´t notice because nobody made a new topic for it. :P

[Marik]

Episode 21 aired!

[DarthEnderX]

Hmm, I forget, was Email even, like, a thing when the series first came out?

[David75]

Hmm, I forget, was Email even, like, a thing when the series first came out?

Yup, e-mails were already working in 99 on desktops and had been for a while.

it was even possible to have on cell-phones it with I-mode by NTT Docomo I think.