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    Speaking of Welfin: Gyro is that guy that a whole episode was spent on to show his past, right? Wonder which one of the ants he is. Someone we don´t know yet? Otherwise, it pretty much leaves Pouf and the King, but from how Youpi responded, it appears the Royal guard, and the king consequently, are made of so many indivudals that they dont have any past memories.

    Or might he be the queen´s baby? What´s with that baby, anyway? Going by an ant´s fast growth, it should be a young adult by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Speaking of Welfin: Gyro is that guy that a whole episode was spent on to show his past, right? Wonder which one of the ants he is. Someone we don´t know yet?
    Are you kidding? Meruem is Gyro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Are you kidding? Meruem is Gyro.
    Assuming you didnt juse spoiler everyone: I guess one can conclude that from how lengthy Gyro´s flashback was. I thought of that, too. But Youpi stating that he has no past memory at all made it look like the royal guard, and thus the king, are made from so many individuals that no single memory remained in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Are you kidding? Meruem is Gyro.
    Meruem is not Gyro. Gyro retains his human memories and defects from the hive before Meruem is even born. If you need proof, read chapter 204. Meruem's birth occurs in chapter 213.
    Last edited by enkoujin; Wed, 06-11-2014 at 02:08 PM. Reason: Added in chapter 213 link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I guess one can conclude that from how lengthy Gyro´s flashback was. I thought of that, too.
    I mean, I thought that was the obvious conclusion we were supposed to draw. That they spent an entire episode on the nihilistic human with the huge eyes who was basically the King of the NGL, who gets taken by the ants. And pretty much every other character of importance is being revealed to have been a member of Gyro's gang.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    But Youpi stating that he has no past memory at all made it look like the royal guard, and thus the king, are made from so many individuals that no single memory remained in them.
    Remember that they've already stated that Youpi had NO humans in him. He was made entirely of magic beasts. So of course he wouldn't have any human memories.

    Quote Originally Posted by enkoujin View Post
    Meruem is not Gyro. Gyro retains his human memories and defects from the hive before Meruem is even born. If you need proof, read chapter 204. Meruem's birth occurs in chapter 213.
    Yeesh, thanks for reminding me how terrible Togashi's art is...

    Was that scene even in the anime? I don't remember it if it was. But yeah, I guess that makes them two separate characters.

    It also makes it seem like Ant Gyro is going to be an important antagonist later in the series.
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    I also thought it was heavily implied that Gyro is Meruem. Especially with Welfin going to talk to him.

    I was pretty annoyed that the King lived through the nuke, but I'm pretty happy that the nuke is still going to kill him.

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    Thanks for the link, because I'm 100% certain that was omitted in the anime. I've been on the Gyro=King thought process since he was introduced, expecting his personality to have been inherited from that evil.

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    Okay good. It wasn't just me then.

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    fuck me, that was intense! didnt expect welfin to reveal the secret.

    1.) I find it somewhat silly how much of a crush Meruem seems to have on Komugi at this point. Looks so lovey-dovey.
    2.) I REALLY want to know which ant Gyro turned into. Is it someone we know? If so, it cannot be anyone particularly strong. If it isnt, Im scared of some dumb asspull of Togashi´s, assuming this Gyro-ant will be rivaling the king in strength. I guess the safest bet would be Gyro = last baby of the queen.
    3.) While refreshing on one side, the king dying by radiation is also frustrating. You´d think someone who can survive burning in lava, losing an arm, can also make it through that.

    One real complaint, though: The beginning of this episode showed us about the "real world" in HXH. Well, this felt somewhat forced, because we NEVER got to see this side of the HXH world. At most, we got to see high rank mafia bosses during the auctions in the Yorkshin arc. I guess it is a bit difficult to balance such matters, but when we always see Gon and all of his fantastical happenings, accepting normal people with their normal lifes was/is kinda hard. For me, anyways.

    Lastly, Komugi would be quite a hotty without her dumb hair style.

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    I guess the King reevaluated the value and purpose of life when he died and gradually got his memories back after the resurrection. Once you get intelligent enough, you aren't anymore interested in the same animalistic things an ant would be, nor even the same things a more simple-minded human would be. That's also why the most intelligent people are never in the politics, unless forced by extraordinary circumstances. They rather do something that intrests and satisfies them personally, like science, art, and such. The King learned and experienced too much to be interested in conquering the world anymore and treating everybody like nothing but game pieces. He would rather sit down and conquer the world of chess! (Or whatever the derivative game was called.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    2.) I REALLY want to know which ant Gyro turned into. Is it someone we know?
    ...

    I guess the safest bet would be Gyro = last baby of the queen.
    The manga page enkoujin posted pretty much shows that none of that is the case.

    He was a fully grown ant, and left the hive before Gon ever arrived. And they didn't really show what he looked like.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    If so, it cannot be anyone particularly strong. If it isnt, Im scared of some dumb asspull of Togashi´s, assuming this Gyro-ant will be rivaling the king in strength.
    I don't know why that would be an asspull.

    In the right circumstances, Gon is as strong as Meruem, and he's not even an ant.

    How strong Gyro ends up being will depend on what his power is, how much talent he has, and how much he trains. Just like every other Nen using character in the series.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Lastly, Komugi would be quite a hotty without her dumb hair style.
    Meh. They've shown her with her hair down. And while she looks much better, she still has the caterpillar eyebrows and the constant snot drip going on.

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    It wasn't such a bad death scene. The King's personality change was quite significant, but on the other hand, if a person knows they are going to die in a few hours at max, I'd say any personality change is not too nonplausible. Above all, he had shown great interest in games all along, so it makes sense he would want to use his last moments playing as that's something he can achieve very nicely in the limited time left. Furthermore, he had at hand the single opponent he hadn't managed to beat yet. Too bad Komugi was like she was, snot dripping from her nose during that last game. I suppose her design was like that to underline the fact the King (or the ants in general) didn't give a shit about a person's appearance. Only the strength and abilities mattered.

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    Super emotional episode. I didnt cry, but it made me feel a lot. The king repeatedly asking, if Komugi was still there, was heartbreaking. It was basically the slow (but still fast compared to reality) death of a leucemia victim.

    That said, I´m too scared about the future of HXH. Afaik there is one more arc finished in the manga, so I hope we will get to see that in anime form, too. And then ... well, Togashi, stop slacking :/

    Do we know about this anime´s popularity? I wonder what the chances are that Togashi maybe prepared plot point drafts that the anime can flesh out, while not touching on the main story, so the anime can keep running.

    However, after all these shades of grey-villains, I´m now ready for an honest to god evil mastermind. Someone who´s simply dark.

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    You could tell it was gonna be some episode when the didn't even take time for the opening credits.

    I was NOT expecting them to kill off Komugi. It was all very poetic, but definitely not what that character deserved.

    I thought it was an interesting choice to have both Youpi and Pouf's final moments happen off-screen.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    The king repeatedly asking, if Komugi was still there, was heartbreaking.
    Urg! Hurts my chesticles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Super emotional episode. I didnt cry, but it made me feel a lot. The king repeatedly asking, if Komugi was still there, was heartbreaking. It was basically the slow (but still fast compared to reality) death of a leucemia victim.

    That said, I´m too scared about the future of HXH. Afaik there is one more arc finished in the manga, so I hope we will get to see that in anime form, too. And then ... well, Togashi, stop slacking :/

    Do we know about this anime´s popularity? I wonder what the chances are that Togashi maybe prepared plot point drafts that the anime can flesh out, while not touching on the main story, so the anime can keep running.

    However, after all these shades of grey-villains, I´m now ready for an honest to god evil mastermind. Someone who´s simply dark.
    Not gonna lie, definitely teared up during this episode. I felt the King's personality change was warranted given he was all alone (no more royal guard or ants to rule) and really just wanted his one true friend to play games with before he died. What really got me was Palm battling her ant half and not letting the king bow down. It showed you just how desperate both characters were at the time. While the feels were unexpected, I am of the same mind that I would like a god damn villain at this point in the series. The non-combative resolution left me emotional but unfulfilled.

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    This was probably the my favorite episode of HxH yet.
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    Just finished watching... i did not see that end coming at all, and god damn it hit me right in the feels.

    Well played HxH, well played.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    You could tell it was gonna be some episode when the didn't even take time for the opening credits.

    I was NOT expecting them to kill off Komugi. It was all very poetic, but definitely not what that character deserved.

    I thought it was an interesting choice to have both Youpi and Pouf's final moments happen off-screen.

    Urg! Hurts my chesticles.
    I expected that to happen ever since the explanation that survivors exposed were spreading a lethal poison that would incur even more victims. Something a little more potent that a nuke after all.

    That last scene was very "Romeo and Juliet" like to me.

    Repetitions in that last scene, and also the protagonists background making so that they should never have met, let alone entertain a relationship of anykind.

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    Contrary to what you guys might think, it was a very happy end for the two of them. They both managed to find someone who can stand up to them in a fair battleground. The King never actually won, but he enjoyed trying. Komugi was ecstatic at the King's growth, since she is also able to use her full abilities, and evolve further. Compared to Komugi's previous life where her family uses her as a money making tool, or the King with no one to challenge him, those final fleeting moments are happiness itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    I expected that to happen ever since the explanation that survivors exposed were spreading a lethal poison that would incur even more victims.
    I didn't think much of it because I was still thinking it was just radiation, but they were trying really hard to avoid calling it that for some reason.

    If they really were, themselves, poisonous, then characters like Welfin and Palm should be dying right now too. But then they threw in that "if you stay near me too long" line, so that they can basically justify the poison ONLY killing Komugi.

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