Kiritsugu probably made the right decision in this situation, but the last scene in the episode also showed that he is batshit crazy at the same time. You have to be a psycho to not have to think twice about pulling the trigger in those kind of situations. Clearly something broke in his head, after the whole Shirley incident. This is what gives rise to lack of hesitation, which Natalia considers to be a rare talent for those in her line of work.
I think this kill is what made him batshit crazy. His ideals were batshit crazy even before, but now he was able to prove his adherence in the most convincing and final way possible. There really is simply no going back now, not after killing your foster mother, teacher, partner, and friend.
Peace.
UTW - Episode 20
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In the end, it's Irisviel's death that will impact on me the most. Not Maiya, Natalia or anybody else's. Watery eyes were present, and that's about as far as I expect to go as far as shedding tears for this show I reckon.
We finally got to hear her say anata once. ;_;
Kiritsugu spilling tears for Maiya (but not for Iri) gave off mixed messages. On one hand you could say that he is emotionally attached to Maiya more since he actually cried (as opposed to just hardening up with his it's-a-sacrifice-for-the-greater-good mentality that he displayed when he parted with Iri).
This reaction is a lot closer to the one he displayed when he killed Natalia.
On the other hand though, it's not so clear because you can argue that:
1) Iri wasn't actually dying right then and there, while Maiya was literally just about to leave - making the departure just that much more real
2) After Iri said her part, Kiritsugu still had Maiya left. With Maiya's injury and Iri's death certain, Kiritsugu realises that he will once again lose everybody. While Maiya's death brought tears visibly to Kiritsugu's eyes, it can be arguable how much Iri had put a crack in his heart prior to this.
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If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Why did Maiya have to die...
Why do all the characters I like in this show keep dying? All that's left is for Kiritsugu to die, but we know that won't happen.
Peace.
This is a funny story with all the best people dying and all the worst surviving (Kirei, Gil, the old Matou vampire), if you count Kiritsugu's death not that much after a part of the deal.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Kiritsugu should be full of determination after this, at the very least.
I wonder who's going to kill Tohsaka Aoi? Is it still Kirei? Or will Kariya kill her by accident?
Could be either or, but both will be due to Kirei's meddling since he finds Kariya "interesting" and all that.
I'm really confused regarding Rider.. if it was him, his actions would seem rather inconsistent. It's not like Saber wouldn't have duelled him if he asked nicely.
That was nice little red herring from the last preview, with "Return of the Assassin" referring not to the servant class but to Kiritsugu himself.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Poor Kiritsugu is just cursed. Keeps on losing women he loves or at least cares for.
Because Gen Urobuchi.
The preview made it look like Kariya was gonna rape her or something O_o
Was it though? There's no way Rider was the one who killed Maya so maybe this is one last true assassin in disguise?
Last time I checked, Assassin couldn't fly, unless Gil was letting dirty thieves on his plane (which was destroyed?).
Alternate scenario: Rider comes knocking in looking for a challenge but doesn't see Saber. Assassin performs some sort of sneak ranged attack and Maya ends up getting fatally injured. Rider can't fight encumbered at the moment so picks up Iri and takes her to safety.
I highly doubt there's an extra assassin lying around though. Kirei lost his rank as master last time due solely because he lost all his servants, as far as I know. He sought refuge at the church and his mark initially disappeared. Assassins aren't known to be able to hold out without a master unlike the Archer class, and Kirei had shown no sign that he had rejoined the war secretly prior to his teaming up with Gil.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
That better be what happened, or I am gonna pray Saber lasers the living shit out of Iskandar.
Even if he killed Maiya by accident, he is better off dead.
Peace.
Well, it's kind of a surprise she wasn't offed before. I mean Shirou got killed by Lancer at the beginning of Fate/Stay Night because outsiders weren't allowed witnessing the fights between Heroic Spirits and knowledge of the Holy Grail War in general right? Maya is an outsider in that prospect isn't she?
No one knows about Maya except Kirei. All other masters would actually ser Kiritsugu an outsider and Iri as the Einzbern master.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
If it was Rider who killed her, he had every right to do so. We even saw Maya initiated the fight. Not that she'd have had any choice, or any chance, but from the point of view of a warrior, it would have been more insulting if Rider had simply ignored her and the bullets, taken Iri and flown away. Being an assassin, maybe Maya wouldn't have cared (though we will never know), but as a warrior Rider might have.
Maya's reaction was provoked by Rider, who didn't knock on the door but instead kicked it down. I'd say he had it coming.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
What has that got to do with anything? It's a war and they are all enemies with each other. Knocking on the door only lets the other side get ready. Maya would still have had the option to throw away her gun and go sit in a corner. Door is nothing but a door, a piece of wood and metal.
I'm saying that it's Rider who did the initiating, not Maya. It's a sign of aggression, you'd be stupid not to read it as such, or know that it would trigger such a response.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Rider probably killed Maya quickly because he understands what happenned with lancer's master.
He has every reason to kill an opponent who plays dirty, as soon as he gets a chance to.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
How would he know though? It's not like anyone told him. Kiritsugu didn't know Tokiomi was dead until he rocked up.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well they were able to trace Irisviel position (my guess, due to the magic circle where she lays).
They know how lancer was treated.
Rider decides to attack the enemy's base in a frontal manner, he does not really have time to spare anyone hostile based on principles... even more so if he suspects these enemies to play dirty.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
I am not really blaming Rider for killing an enemy. I am blaming him for killing Maiya, and there is no right or wrong, or anything logical about that. It is pure bias.
Peace.
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