Wasn't Fuyuki the location only because it was far from the Church's witch hunt and the local mages didn't object to it being used? The Grail War itself obviously has its roots in Western magic, so the majority of mages participating being users of Western magic is hardly a surprise, the chosen heroic spirits included. But yeah, it does seem like Type-Moon is presenting much of the magic in their universe quite Western.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I vaguely remember that being the case.. as well as Fuyuki being a good place because of the leylines in the earth. Those two points aren't mutually exclusive though.
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You mean Longinus? I don't think his noble phantasm would be weak at all. He did kill a god after all.
Peace.
That was the guy's name? I thought it was just the spear... I guess I'm not too familiar with these later legends. Still, it wouldn't change so much. After all, according to the only canonical Gospel that mentions the spearing at all, John, Jesus was already dead by the time this unnamed soldier speared him. But regardless of which legend you choose to believe, the man's great achievement wasn't to kill a god but to recognize the son of God, suffer, and turn into a Christian. His violent act was to hit a man already dead or barely lingering, nailed to a cross and utterly helpless. Maybe he could take lots of punishment, but he would lack offensive skills.
Like I said, I wouldn't want this guy as a servant.
a servant owning the true holy spear? and you wouldn't want him?
its probably win by default as its said to make its wielder immortal/invincible
Well, Gilgamesh has a vault full of weapons, each holier than the previous, but I still would rather go with another servant. Gil's more trouble than worth. This Longinus fellow achieved nothing but happening to be a centurion overseeing Jesus's punishment. Whatever he did later is as fictional as the 5th war's Sasaki Kojirou's fame - and just look how lucky that guy was.
The spear might be nice, I'll give in that much, but not the guy that comes along with it.
That spear can hit an angel all the way out in outer space. I want it.
Peace.
Then you'd better hook up with NASA to retrieve it afterwards.
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UTW - Episode 17
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wtf was with that preview?
I'm with Gil on this one. That was a rather boring finish to Tokiomi's storyline. I had hoped to see more flashy magic from him.
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Indeed. It feels like we saw pretty much nothing from Tokiomi. Although that only reinforces my view of him as a man who plotted and gathered information endlessly but lacked something to act based on it. I also find it interesting how Rin is so similar to him in one way: How they trusted people so much and were thus devastatingly betrayed. Fortunately Rin didn't hesitate to act, though.
Still, after this episode Kirei's death in FSN is doubly satisfying... I don't particularly care about Tokiomi's death (aside from regretting not seeing his best battle performance), but it's just nasty Kirei will look after Rin. A small consolation is that Rin will never like him.
One-upping Kiritsugu shouldn't be easy for Kirei, despite the fact the Einzbern faction should now believe the Toosaka faction won't be targeting them right now. Kiritsugu doesn't look like a man who will believe anybody. I don't expect he would even believe Kirei is going to leave.
Hahaha! Now i get it! The ending of the fate route, that dagger... holy shit the irony is delicious!
Gil and Kotomine's interactions are weird though, at one point it looked like they were 5 seconds away from a make out session.
Yeah, that's pretty funny.
You could look at it that way. Both of their attractions seem rather.. strong.
Gil and Kotomine's interactions are weird though, at one point it looked like they were 5 seconds away from a make out session.
The weirdest thing that I don't get with Kirei is whether he's fixated more on Kiritsugu or Kariya. During the beginning of the show he was all "omg this Kiritsugu guy is so mysterious!". Then as Gil turned him over they said that Kariya was the person Kiritsugu was interested in the most because he kept monitoring him with Assassins. Now we're back to Kiritsugu fanboyism with that photo pulling him back.
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Next episode...Kirei takes a bath with a bunch of pictures of Kiritsugu floating in the tub.
The man is totally empty inside, so give him a break if he's interested in people going all out to achieve something they believe in, no matter the cost. Such an outlook must be utterly alien to Kirei, so he finds it intriguing.
Awesome. I was waiting for this. This song makes me cry, especially because of the visuals in the ED.
Peace.
Episode 18:
Well... that escalated quickly.
Kerry...
Now we know where the twisted sense of justice Shirou had came from.
I don't understand the necessity to kill Kerry's father, unless he was sure that his father would experiment on people of his own volition. He probably was though, but that is put into doubt by his desire for vengeance because his father's irresponsibility took his love away from him.
I am so excited to see what kind of character Natalia is. She reminds me of Aozaki Touko in a number of ways, and that is always a great thing.
Peace.
I thought it was unnecessary as well since this incident wasn't directly the fault of Kiritsugu's father's works.
It depends on how much Kiritsugu knows about his research and how smart he is though. The logical conclusion is that each of those flowers were exposed to one batch of "test pills". His father is leaving them on the porch to test how they stand against time. The best ones (or apparently successful ones) will move on to animal trials, then eventually human trials.
If he saw all that coming, then he'd know that someday someone would have to suffer the same fate. Granted, if conducted appropriately it would only result in the odd abduction case instead of an outbreak, on a smaller scale than how 4th war Caster and his Master abduct little children. I'm not convinced he saw that far ahead though. I'm more confident that his line of thinking was "The pill was the cause, and dad created the pill. He'll continue to create more pills in his experiments. I must stop him."
How so?
She's cool, but I'll still need to see more (predicted) awesomeness from her before I jump on that wagon.
I was amused to see other character designs making a cameo. Shirley seems like a cheery version of Alphard, and the Mage Association guy looked just like the Kotomine Kirei counterpart in Fate/Prototype.
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Shirou's justice over everything ideology (at least at the start of FSN) was probably influenced by Kerry. He did serve as a father figure after all, and Shirou always looked up to his teachings (although probably without understanding the truth behind them).
I am guessing Emiya granddad's attitude towards the tragedy at the village clued Kerry in on how the experiment will eventually progress.
Peace.
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