In FSN, Saber talked with Shirou about her former master Kiritsugu, yes.Originally Posted by Idealistic
In FSN, Saber talked with Shirou about her former master Kiritsugu, yes.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Only Saber (Arturia) remembers past Grail Wars during which she has been summoned. She's a unique case.
Do you have a source for that? It just seems hard to know since Arturia is the only servant we've seen that's been summoned twice.
Edit: Never mind I found it, probably wouldn't have been able to get that from the information in FSN or rather never reflected on it.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
She did remember it, but i dont think she was suposed to.
I guess her legend is so closely attached to excalibur that she's saber exclusive? Or was that part of the deal she made with the grail?
It's covered in the FSN anime - just not fully explained (or so I thought anyway).
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I'm guessing it's because of Excalibur and a couple of other facts, apparently to be viable to become Berserker the Hero in question have to had gone berserk at some point. She doesn't exactly have a lance, bow or mount to use as noble phantasms (that I know of) and definitely not a spell caster nor the assassin type so that pretty much only leaves her with only Saber.
Yeah when I read why she remembers it made sense and the anime touches upon these facts but I don't think they ever made any kind of line between the different facts. On the plus side I get more of the ending now.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
I thought Gilgamesh was another servant that remembered past wars. He at least remembered Saber in FSN, saying they had a "relationship".
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
Gilgamesh is from the 4th war and survived during the ten years in between. Note that the 4th war summoned Archer Gilgamesh while the 5th war summoned Archer Emiya Shirou.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I was aware of the archer differences, however I was unaware that he simply survived for ten years. I thought he was re-summoned by the church dude (his name eludes me at the moment unfortunately). That would make sense why he would remember then, haha.
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
Yeah, I mentioned the archer difference with the purpose of illustrating that you only summon one class per war.
PS: I just noticed 4th war Lancer has two lances.. hmm....
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I'm not sure anymore
but didn't Saber say she remembers what happened in the previous war because of what she did at the end of it?
or was it because the summoning was incomplete?
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 10-10-2011 at 01:52 PM.
I really can't rememeber was anime-covered and what was game-covered anymore. Didn't want to plaster this place with game-spoiler tags, but since there seems to be a demand for this little tidbit of knowledge, especially to abridge the two series, here goes:
[explanation about the servant summoning system that may not be covered in the anime follows]
People of the past have ascended to Hero status due to their deeds. Such heroes simply participate in the wars when summoned since the Grail gives them an incentive to do so. (or not, depending on the circumstances..). They retain the memories of their previous lives, but not of any previous war or summoning.
Saber made a pact with the World as she was dying; she would be allowed to try and obtain the Holy Grail to grant her wish. In exchange, if she succeeds, she will finish her life and become a Counter Guardian after her death, a sub-category of a Heroic Spirit at the service of the World. Because of this pact, she is in fact still alive and "frozen" in her dying state when she travels through time to obtain the Grail, and is summoned as a Servant in the Grail War. After each Holy Grail War, she goes back into her dying body, unless she wins or gives up, ready for the next Holy Grail War.This is also the reason she is able to retain her memories of the events of Fate/Zero, something a Servant should not be able to do.
(Taken from Type-moon wikia, as well as a lot of help/memory jogging from Xelbair.)
[/END explanation. Highlight space to read]
Last edited by Buffalobiian; Mon, 10-10-2011 at 02:31 PM.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
So i just noticed that Berserker is a knight... in front of a lake. Really? Are they honestly making it that obvious? I'll be slightly annoyed if they are so here's hoping it's a red herring.
It's not that obvious to me. I don't really have any concrete idea on who you're talking about, though I only know of one knight who is associated with a lake.. which makes it even more confusing.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Not knowing the original source anything i say can't really be constituted a spoiler can it?
Anyway, just google knight and lake if you're that interested.
Didn't actually notice that until you mentioned it... if it's true then it feels even weirder that Berserker is hardly in the opening considering the hint in the ending unless they tell us his identity soon.
If it is who Arch is saying then you're better off not knowing.
You are here alone again
In your sweet insanity
All too calm, you hide yourself from reality
Do you call it solitude? Do you call it liberty?
When all the world turns away to leave you lonely
It does seem strange... i mean, what's the point of downplaying it in the opening if you're going to make it blatantly obvious in the ending?
I haven't watched the Fate/Stay anime, or played... so can I watch this and then watch the fate/stay anime after? will that give me a good understanding of the series throughout, or are there references in this one that I would appreciate if i watch the first series first.
I think it would be cool to watch this and then watch the fate/stay all the way through, but if this is made as a prequel-sequel, with previous knowledge is needed, then I'll watch the fate/stay first.
thanks
I'd imagine you'd have no troubles watching this before the older FSN anime. You'd have a bit different perspective than the rest of us, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. However, reading this thread will give you spoilers since talking about the old anime isn't forbidden.
You'd probably be better off watching fsn first.
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