Fate/Zero

[Ryllharu]

Sad part is your spoiler is was wrong Xel. Wrong Servant.

Another victory for reading comprehension!

[Buffalobiian]

@Ryll - Like I said, preparation is important too. Illya had tons of command spells to control Hercules due to her family's preparation, and that made the team monstrous. I agree with you, but that does not make Shirou's war less difficult to win.

Illya had:

-A monstrous magic circuit
-A monstrous command spell that covered her whole body

I'm sure everybody only has 3 command spells, regardless of size. Berserker class drains your magic in order to sustain them, and that's the reason for her success - not because of additional command spell.

[shinta|hikari]

Indeed you are right. It was a full body magic circuit/command spell.

[EpyonNext]

So question. Will I be lost in the sauce with any background information if I have not seen FSN?

[shinta|hikari]

Your enjoyment would be reduced by more than half, I think.

[EpyonNext]

That's pretty significant. Time to hunt me down a FSN batch.

[shinta|hikari]

Or play the game. It's much better, and will give you a lot more information after completing all 3 paths.

[Kraco]

Waver is a pussy, that's a fact.

At least he had enough guts to steal from his professor and enter a deadly competition out of his own volition. He can't be all wretched, even though he probably would have fit better the next war, not this one.

[Buffalobiian]

At least he had enough guts to steal from his professor and enter a deadly competition out of his own volition. He can't be all wretched, even though he probably would have fit better the next war, not this one.

I find it very strange that the entire Magi Association hasn't tried to hunt him down. I wasn't sure if the Archbald guy had the organisation's backing, or if they aren't actually lending him any help.

[fireheart]

I find it very strange that the entire Magi Association hasn't tried to hunt him down. I wasn't sure if the Archbald guy had the organisation's backing, or if they aren't actually lending him any help.

Well he did get chosen to participate in the war regardlessly and the war is supervised by the church so maybe that grants him immunity.

[Xelbair]

At least he had enough guts to steal from his professor and enter a deadly competition out of his own volition. He can't be all wretched, even though he probably would have fit better the next war, not this one.

You'll see later.

I find it very strange that the entire Magi Association hasn't tried to hunt him down. I wasn't sure if the Archbald guy had the organisation's backing, or if they aren't actually lending him any help.

why? they don't resolve conflicts that way - in fact, they would just watch them two resolve the conflict( Waver vs Archibald). Magi Association never interferes unless: 1) they want to get someone alive(who is really strong as a magus) to medically examine him(ie dissect him and put him into different jars) 2) they stop magus from revealing magic to general public.
Magi Association dosen't care by the 'route' taken by magus, it just want to see the finished products of researches.

[Idealistic]

ANN has F/Z listed as just 12 episodes so I'm hoping it's 12 40+min episodes.

EDIT@below, ah i see. Well, I also hope this ep didn't count as 1 AND 2.

[Kraco]

On the other hand, Mahou showtime lists at the moment 25 eps. As a general rule you shouldn't trust ANN in anything episodes related. Just read it for news and staff info. We will eventually see the truth.

[Buffalobiian]

You'll see later.


why? they don't resolve conflicts that way - in fact, they would just watch them two resolve the conflict( Waver vs Archibald). Magi Association never interferes unless: 1) they want to get someone alive(who is really strong as a magus) to medically examine him(ie dissect him and put him into different jars) 2) they stop magus from revealing magic to general public.
Magi Association dosen't care by the 'route' taken by magus, it just want to see the finished products of researches.

Good point, I forgot about them operating like that.

[shinta|hikari]

@Xel - I know the feeling of wanting to spoil stuff since you've read the source material, but since this is not just related stuff like the FSN game or anime but the actual light novel you are getting info from, can you avoid giving hints? It may not seem like much to you, but some can deduce quite a bit from a small clue and that can consequently reduce the enjoyment of the show.

[RyougaZell]

ANN has F/Z listed as just 12 episodes so I'm hoping it's 12 40+min episodes.

EDIT@below, ah i see. Well, I also hope this ep didn't count as 1 AND 2.

Even RandomC, a fansite, is better source. They list 25 episodes.

http://randomc.net/2011/09/20/fall-2...iew/#fate-zero

ANN is full of misinformation and hypocrite writers.

[fireheart]

why? they don't resolve conflicts that way - in fact, they would just watch them two resolve the conflict( Waver vs Archibald). Magi Association never interferes unless: 1) they want to get someone alive(who is really strong as a magus) to medically examine him(ie dissect him and put him into different jars) 2) they stop magus from revealing magic to general public.
Magi Association dosen't care by the 'route' taken by magus, it just want to see the finished products of researches.

Is that from the game? Because I don't remember them talking that much about the Magi Association in the anime or movie

[Xelbair]

Is that from the game? Because I don't remember them talking that much about the Magi Association in the anime or movie

Game as far as i remember, there was a small bit about them in anime i think too, i think that Rin stated that in early episodes.

@Xel - I know the feeling of wanting to spoil stuff since you've read the source material, but since this is not just related stuff like the FSN game or anime but the actual light novel you are getting info from, can you avoid giving hints? It may not seem like much to you, but some can deduce quite a bit from a small clue and that can consequently reduce the enjoyment of the show.

The only hint i couldn't stop myself from posting was about waver's servant, don't worry - i'll just post some small minor flavour details. Plus even if someone deduces something correctly i'll refrain from comment. Character related stuff is based on the current ep and the part of the novel that episode covered.

[Kraco]

Is that from the game? Because I don't remember them talking that much about the Magi Association in the anime or movie

I believe the Magi Association, and also the church branch, and consistent throughout all the Type-Moon stories. So, the information will accumulate.

[fireheart]

Game as far as i remember, there was a small bit about them in anime i think too, i think that Rin stated that in early episodes.

Ahh ok

I believe the Magi Association, and also the church branch, and consistent throughout all the Type-Moon stories. So, the information will accumulate.

Can't say I remember much being mentioned about the Magi Association nor the church in the anime which doesn't exist or in Kara no Kyoukai, maybe they've mentioned how they work and I just forgot.