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    For having to paint my argument in such broad strokes so that you understand that these people were 100% in the wrong and deserved their consequences, despite the ridiculous and superfluous law they were attempting to protest.

    The situation is a little more nuanced than "The cops did something I disagree with...POLICE STATE NAZIS HITLER"

    Edit: I really can't believe you're trying to equate this with the Civil Rights Movement. One is a violent and systematic abuse of human rights and the other is a couple of cops saying "you can't dance here or we'll arrest you, sorry." and then arresting the people who started dancing like buffoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Those of us fortunate enough to have had a good education also know that you should never talk to the police because they are assholes and will try and get you to self-incriminate.
    We discussed this line of thinking at work today. As a future law enforcement professional, personally if you explain yourself I'm more likely to let you go with a warning, than if you refuse to answer and appear "uncooperative" then I'll think you're hiding something or trying to get away with something. In my book, if you show some remorse and guilt over what you've done, especially in victimless or small crimes, then I'm less likely to want to punish you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    For having to paint my argument in such broad strokes so that you understand that
    Well I didn't get that from, "I'm sorry". Be more specific. Don't mean to be rude, but it's annoying and I perceive it as condescending when people say "I'm sorry" after making their point in a disagreement.

    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    The situation is a little more nuanced than "The cops did something I disagree with...POLICE STATE NAZIS HITLER"
    I don't care if the cops disagree with me. I care if they use violence against me for disagreeing with me, when I am doing nothing violent or threatening towards others.

    Should I be arrested for disagreeing?

    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    Edit: I really can't believe you're trying to equate this with the Civil Rights Movement. One is a violent and systematic abuse of human rights
    That's exactly what this situation is.

    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    and the other is a couple of cops saying "you can't dance here or we'll arrest you, sorry." and then arresting the people who started dancing like buffoons.
    Civil rights protesters were hosed down, dogs were sicked on them, etc. I am sure a lot of other people said they were retarded for bothering to protest against something so stupid, banal and trivial, also. The fact that you think that segregation is so obviously wrong is revolutionary compared to what the majority of people thought 100, 60 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire
    I don't care if the cops disagree with me. I care if they use violence against me for disagreeing with me, when I am doing nothing violent or threatening towards others.
    If you don't want to have violence used against you, then don't resist arrest. How, in any way, do you think that helps the situation?

    I'm not gonna repeat myself about the Civil Rights thing. I'll be the first one to take your side when I see an abuse of power from law enforcement, but that's not at all what happened here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    We discussed this line of thinking at work today. As a future law enforcement professional, personally if you explain yourself I'm more likely to let you go with a warning, than if you refuse to answer and appear "uncooperative" then I'll think you're hiding something or trying to get away with something. In my book, if you show some remorse and guilt over what you've done, especially in victimless or small crimes, then I'm less likely to want to punish you.
    No one listen to this. Please.

    This should be required viewing at schools in America:

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    If you don't want to have violence used against you, then don't resist arrest. How, in any way, do you think that helps the situation?
    You just defined democracy and the government in general, "I have an irrational attachment to bullshit, and I will punch you in the face if you disagree."

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo View Post
    I'm not gonna repeat myself about the Civil Rights thing. I'll be the first one to take your side when I see an abuse of power from law enforcement, but that's not at all what happened here.
    Really, that's all? How many government corruption and abuse of power videos from the last 3 years do you want me to show you? 30? 60? After some point, enough is enough, - and this isn't directed at you - but indoctrination and cognitive bias is the only thing that stops people from seeing that there's a better solution to all this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    We discussed this line of thinking at work today. As a future law enforcement professional, personally if you explain yourself I'm more likely to let you go with a warning, than if you refuse to answer and appear "uncooperative" then I'll think you're hiding something or trying to get away with something. In my book, if you show some remorse and guilt over what you've done, especially in victimless or small crimes, then I'm less likely to want to punish you.
    This is completely true based on my experiences.
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