I must say that I agree almost completely with what Sapphire stated. Except that about police dissapearing. We aint ready yet for that kind of system and I must say that the root problem is the master they serve cause since a long time isnt justice. Im with you when you say that laws arent done by or for the citizens, its just a ridiculous system that guards appearences.

Im trying to find some kind of chart with criminal rates to see if those countries of the 1st world with the most repressive police help to subdue crime. I still think that using overkill force only serves to sow rage in the people and relatives that suffer it. Thus creating more unrest.

About what Ryll said of obeying police I must objetc. Its true that it is the best for you from the physical perspective, cause if they want to arrest you they will end doing it dead or alive. But if you are being harrassed, falselly accused or demeaningly treated I wouldnt obey so eagerly, and more if there is a camera there. I wouldnt kneel before them just cause they say so, even knowing that would mean a whole world of pain for me, wich is usually the response of every order force in the world.

To Dragon its true that we dont know what happened before and the footage that is shown is very suspicious but I think we argued about what can be seen in that footage. I think that 2 of those molesters where being childish. The old guy and the friend that went to hold hands with his buddy (if I was his buddy I would have body slamed him, what a moron). The others acted quite pacefully and respectfully. I still cant comprehend the part of resisting, they just didnt make things easy for the cops and that pissed them off.

I was thinking that I have always seen the cops reading their rights to the arrested is that needed in this case?