It's hard to imagine that even Danzo was once so egoistic. (to a point, he still is).
The logical conclusion to why Sasuke opened his left M.Sharingan on Danzo as he skewered him was to use it (Genjutsu on Danzo to make him think it killed Karin and thereby letting her go).
But then... why the lightning blade in the preview that can only be for ending Karin's suffering?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I think he really meant it when he said she was now a burden to him and hit her with the lightning blade thing, it's no secret that the guy is a complete douchebag so i wouldn't put it past him.
Danzou staggering/trying to run away from Sasuke was just pathetic.. maybe he was hoping for Madara to come down to him so he could do his weird suicidebomb jutsu thinking its better to have 2 targets instead of just Sasuke -.-
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I was thinking he wanted to bring Madara within range of Sasuke so he could 'manipulate' one into killing the other. Surprising but, given Danzo's back story, I find him more likable than Sasuke.
They didn't show any reason for Sasuke to activate his left eye. I suspect that Karin and Danzo were both under the effect of genjutsu as Sasuke put a hole through them. I think Karin will be just fine. Why else would he tell Karin not to move: either it is a precision shot that will be lethal for Danzo but not Karin, or Karin wasn't really standing where everyone thought she was.
If not then I must say that Sasuke is about as cold as it gets and needs to be put down.
The backstory of Danzo was amazing. It was same as Orochimaru & Ero-sennin, Naruto & Sasuke and many others... With a difference that Danzo was coward, but still it appeared that he loved Leaf and wanted what's best for it(atleast in his opinion).
With that tetra-bomb he secured that noone will get his eye or any other part of his body. Guess he wanted to lure madara into it, but will see what the future brings.
I am waiting for Taka release since those subs here were just terrible, couldnt understand a thing.
Fave episode in a while.
Sasuke's smile really didn't give me the impression that Karin is alive, or that he even cares.
I know against bee, we saw him flashback to the team 7 picture, and we saw a glimmer of care for his "team" Taka... but a lot has happened since then... If he really did kill her, then what's to say he wouldn't do the same to Sakura? Or anyone else for that matter?
I doubt Danzo was able to seal either of them with the jutsu, but at least he sealed the eye, and any remnants of his body secrets. I'm sure, in the wrong hands, having cells from the first or any other weird secrets wouldn't be too good.
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1. Danzo's dead. Good. Hated him.
2. Karin's dying. Good. Hated her. She's getting exactly what she deserves helping someone she knows is a monster.
3. Sasuke takes a flying leap over the moral event horizon.
I really don't understand what happened between his fight with B, and this arc.Originally Posted by Kagari
I mean, I could understand him taking a nosedive after finding out what happened to Itachi, but he was still kinda the same after that when fighting B, but then in this arc, he's become an irredemable bastard.
Between this sudden character shift, and him suddenly learning a new Summon, I almost get the feeling like some kind of story arc was skipped over in the middle here somewhere.
Uh, is English your second language or something? There's nothing wrong with Horriblesubs translations.
Usually you are correct, but the subs didn't make sense, noone forms sentences like this. this is question of quality Taka > Horriblesubs.
Well the difference is that capturing Bee was a mission for Akatsuki, while killing Danzo and anybody who stands in between was his own personal revenge against the Kohana authorities responsible for the Uchiha incident.I really don't understand what happened between his fight with B, and this arc.
I mean, I could understand him taking a nosedive after finding out what happened to Itachi, but he was still kinda the same after that when fighting B, but then in this arc, he's become an irredemable bastard.
Between this sudden character shift, and him suddenly learning a new Summon, I almost get the feeling like some kind of story arc was skipped over in the middle here somewhere.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Granted, but the members of Taka have saved his dumb ass, like, a dozen times now. Karin literally JUST got done saving his life AGAIN.
Danzou is not the last person he intends to get revenge on. You would think he could recognize that he NEEDS these people in order to reach his other targets. But literally, the instant he might get slowed down 3 seconds by one of them, he abandons them, or worse.
"Karin, you've become a burden to me by getting taken hostage. It's okay, I'm sure I'll NEVER need healing or a sensory ninja again at any point in the future when I intend to invade Konoha to go after the other two elders. This mild inconvenience outweighs all that."
It's starting to piss me off on Death Note levels, where the guy keeps winning not because he's better, but because of an endless stream of luck, and the help of people who's help he shouldn't have, but he get's anyway.
Oh yeah,
4. The look on Sasuke's face when Danzou is scrambling to get away and Sasuke comes pimpwalkin' up behind him is like the most perfect example of a rapeface EVER.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Fri, 05-13-2011 at 06:03 AM.
In my opinion you are forgetting something about Sasuke. He has been trying to catch up with someone for as long as he has lived. And continuously failed at that, to boot, even if he has kept trying to tell himself otherwise. Moreover, as much as he later in between hated Itachi, he was still Sasuke's role model in the beginning and in the end, and Itachi was really a perfect example of a lone wolf (at least superficially). So, I think having Karin around to heal him conveniently wasn't actually a positive thing for Sasuke but rather something that reminded him of his own weakness every time. Maybe he was smart enough to recognize the need for her back when Taka was formed and he was weaker, but for all we know he might have been only, subconsciously, looking for a perfect excuse to get rid of her by now. It will mean he can't depend on miracle healing anymore, but on the other hand that will force him not to get screwed by his opponents, that is, to get stronger as an individual.
It's not overly wise strategically in the bigger picture but I deem it suits Sasuke's personality 100%. He fancies himself an avenger and it's not an occupation for jolly company. An avenger can build nothing and has no future, after all.
That was a lot of words to say, "Yeah, it's really stupid, but being really stupid is totally in character for Sasuke."
Back when Taka was formed? She had to heal him again literally 30 seconds before he ran her through.
Did he think he somehow evolved beyond the need for a healer during that 30 seconds?
That doesn't mean anything, or rather, it only underlines what I said. One more reminder to Sasuke he isn't so tough yet, one more reason for him to force himself not to rely on anybody, especially somebody as weak as Karin (in battle). If you know you have a healer at hand, you can use strategy involving healing afterwards. If you don't have a healer, you must do things so you don't need one.
Considering the dodgy Nature of Sasuke's quest against Konoha (although we don't yet know the details nor might he know them himself), having friends tagging along is a bit questionable in any case. It makes no sense. He has got nothing to do after the mission is finished, having dedicated himself to revenge, so why should uninvolved people be involved in the first place? As tools, nothing else.
Sasuke is just a soulless bastard now consumed by hatred just likeAizenMadara had planned. If Sakura get's in his way he will take her out just the same.
The reason why he told Karin not to move because if she moved then so would Danzou and Sasuke might not hit the same vital spot. He just doesn't care for team members anymore.
Darth, Danzo potentially escaping alive is not a minor convenience.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I guess we'll just have to see the NEXT time Sasuke is fucking dying if he goes, "You know, I probably could have waited a couple minutes to kill Danzou if it meant I still had a medical ninja right about now."
You keep talking like Sasuke (knew he) had a 100% chance of killing Danzo.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well, unless Danzou had another dozen Sharingans at home to replace the ones he used, and another arm made out of 1st Hokage, yeah, Sasuke could pretty much take him at any time.
The abilities Danzou expended during this fight are abilities he can never replace.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Fri, 05-13-2011 at 02:42 PM.
What about abilities he has yet to show? For one, he could have casted Shisui's genjutsu on him if he wasn't saving it for Madara. He could also have used that eye to activate Izanagi once again. Don't forget that Sasuke was (supposed to be) out of chakra. That sword clash was supposed to be the final attack for either of them.
Nothing's certain in a fight such as the one they just had.
All Sasuke did was use Danzo's weaknesses against him (his monitoring of his active Sharingans, his confidence that Sasuke won't attack as long as he had Karin).
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
By that logic, he couldn't be certain stabbing through Karin would have ended the fight either. Especially with Danzou having an eye to use Izanagi left. He could have ended up running her through for nothing.
So...the fact that he constantly needs to be healed...means he should get rid of his healer.
You seem to be implying that, the only reason Sasuke needs to be healed, is because he's being reckless, and he's only being reckless BECAUSE he has a medic.
That implies that, if Sasuke didn't have a healer, he'd be more cautious, but he'd still be winning.
It's because, straight up, Sasuke is NOT strong enough to beat these people on his own. He would have died 3 times fighting Bee without Taka. He would have died 5 times fighting the Kage's without Taka and Akatsuki, and he would have died again fighting Danzou if it weren't for Karin.
You say, "If you know you have a healer at hand, you can use strategy involving healing afterwards. If you don't have a healer, you must do things so you don't need one." But the fact is there IS nothing he could do to fight so he wouldn't need a healer. Because he's WEAKER than these people he's defeating. If he didn't have his healer, he'd be LOSING these fights, no matter what he did.
The fact that he can he can do something mutually self destructive against Danzou and live through it because he gets healed is the ONLY reason he can beat Danzou in the first place.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Sat, 05-14-2011 at 03:08 PM.
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