Way to take it to warp 5...nerd dimension.Originally Posted by Animeniax
Way to take it to warp 5...nerd dimension.
I saw that coming... I see everything coming.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I'd stay away from crowded metropolitan cities for a while. just sayin'.
As for this whole thing, as a pakistani who's seen news from both sides (both in reference to this event, and just in general through out the years), heres what i believe. Osama is dead. The US did not kill him. He's been on dialysis since like 2000 (confirmed by a CIA field agent who visited him in a UAE hospital in the summer of 200 i believe), he's been "killed" atleast 4 different times in the past decade, and he was like 112 years old.
He probably died of natural causes, or was close to death. The US likely knew of his whereabouts for more then the 6 months they claim. They decided since he's dead/about to die, mite as well make him useful one last time. Obama gains an approval rating, the whole birth certificate thing is forgotten, and no one cares about YET ANOTHER illegal war in an arab country. Not to mention the planned exit from Afghanistan in 3 months time. How convenient.
Oh and isn't it election season pretty soon in the land of the free?
In anycase, he's dead and some fat black guy will still shove his had up your ass (or more likely my ass) at the airport to check for bombs. Life goes on.
But... why? is not as if the USA stopped looking for him, is there a deadline or something? "ops it`s been several months now, better get rid of all these weapons".
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
He's been hiding for 10 years now. He was in a small town in Pakistan in a secure compound with armed guards and 10 foot walls while the US was busy looking for him in the mountains of Afghanistan. People get complacent and drop their guard.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Do you know something we don't or are you giving us a heads' up for old time sake?
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There was mention of attacking trains, but I don't know where.
It's been confirmed, one of the facts of the missions: Bin Laden was unarmed.
CNN article
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I'm not sure what tone you meant this in, but I'll respond anyway.
I was not aware that he or his organization ceased hostilities against the US and US forces abroad, so he wasn't covered by the Geneva Conventions. He was treated with (relative) dignity, and was not subject to particular humiliating and degrading treatment. They shot him in the head, got some DNA samples, and buried him at sea, reportedly treated to Islamic practice and tradition.
I can't find anything about what types of bullets the SEALs used, but they did not likely use hollow-points, so the operation should have been within the Hague Conventions as well.
Armed or unarmed, he reportedly did not surrender, making him still a combatant. Can you really martyr someone who was believed to have been on the run for years fighting his "good fight," but was actually living in comfort?
Considering the outlash from several groups of people in the middle east, yes?
That wasn't the dispute. He contended that Bin Laden was armed so he had to be shot in the face. I said he most likely let his guard down due to complacency and probably didn't have a weapon at hand when the specops arrived.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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