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    I admit if Enishi and Takako actually stayed behind to assist Ohana (swallowing the humiliation), it would most likely work easily enough, assuming they would listen to anything Ohana says. I, however, discounted that possibility. Perhaps hastily.

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    Takako wanted to cancel the wedding because she thought that Okami would not let Enishing inherit the inn if they were to marry. Her comments when Okami gave her the ring indicate so.

    I think the reason Okami said what she did about Enishi inheriting the inn is because she intends to close it down. At the beginning of the episode, Okami was discussing something with Denroku. I think it is about the impossibility of keeping the inn afloat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Takako wanted to cancel the wedding because she thought that Okami would not let Enishing inherit the inn if they were to marry. Her comments when Okami gave her the ring indicate so.

    I think the reason Okami said what she did about Enishi inheriting the inn is because she intends to close it down. At the beginning of the episode, Okami was discussing something with Denroku. I think it is about the impossibility of keeping the inn afloat.
    That's not the way I took it. Sui got her old ring the very moment Takako suggested that she wanted to cancel the wedding, before she stated that she, 'understood why they couldn't be in charge of the inn.' The rest of Takako's lines are supporting her belief that Sui hates her. Takako has the impression that Sui thinks she is reckless (from all her stupid schemes). Takako was more likely trying to prove herself (for Enishi, for herself, for society, doesn't really matter). Her schemes and Enishi being a bit of a dummy are why she said the line about Sui thinks they're not worthy to run the inn.

    Arguments supporting Takako's belief that Sui hates her, arguments that she isn't worthy of being Sui's daughter in law. Sui's story really meant that she and her husband also faced tough times, but it was good enough that they wanted to stand by each other. Where Takako was mistaken was in thinking that being given the ring also meant that she and Enishi should take over the inn. Sui gave her the ring because Takako admitted she wasn't worthy...which in turn makes her worthy. Humility is a big thing for Sui, even if it is the antithesis of her own daughter's disposition.


    As for Momiji, wasn't there a line a few episodes ago about how he was away visiting family? I'd be far more willing to believe that he was telling Sui that he was going to retire, and that his family had offered him a place in their home, wherever that is. That's why her expression was both accepting yet wistful. He's been with them the whole time, and thus his departure would make her sad. It wasn't something she said to him, it was something he said to her. "This is my final work log," or something to that effect.
    edit: It wasn't the finances book. Sui and Enishi handle that. It was a work log. Unless the boilers are going to explode, it isn't something that will close down the inn.

    That outcome supports my belief that Sui will ask Takako and Enishi to support the other successor, be it either Ohana or Satsuki.
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    That would explain why she was ok with Enishi and Takako experimenting in the last few episodes.

    I did not see that.

    Maybe there's a twist to it too, after all that inn is after her name and she doesn't want to give Kissuisuou, but would give the inn, like the previous owners did

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    Bean-man looked so... weird. Like, scheming, smiley-face weird.

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    After 22 eps I still can't predict, even with the preview, if Ko is still actually single and waiting for Ohana or if he got together with the bookshop girl and Ohana is in for a completely different sort of experience in love than what she was expecting. Naturally I hope Ko was patiently waiting for the fickle girl, but honestly a nasty plot element like that in this show wouldn't surprise me in the least.

    Anyway, this episode was quite nice. Really heated emotions but fortunately the whole issue with Minchi was solved before it got ridiculous. It was excellent Tohru was exposed to it purely by chance. That saved a lot of unnecessary drama. Although the cat fight wasn't a bad watch.

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    I liked the episode overall, BUT:

    - What is going on with Minchi and Toruh now? Did he reject her or not? From how happy Minchi seems, that doesnīt seem likely, but I havenīt seen enough evidence for the opposite, too.

    - Ohana is a self-centered bitch, finally confirmed. She knows that she likes Ko-chan, but she waits until after the wedding before she tells him. See, if she said "Iīm not sure if I really like him or not", I wouldnīt have a problem here. But since she is in the clear about her own feeling, it is just unfair and a horrible thing to do to him. Because Ohana has to assume that Ko-chan is still single and still likes her aaand is still waiting for her reply to his confession. Every day Ohana is waiting is a day Ko-chan has to suffer through. So, yeah, thatīs really shitty on her part.

    Btw. how is that possible that Nako-chan never loved someone? Iīm pretty sure it isnīt the boysī fault that she isnīt more experienced in these regards :P

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    I don't think she's been doing it because she's self-centered. She's just utterly inexperienced and also immature. Considering how much she has been helping others at the inn (and also the foreign inn) without expecting a reward, it would be strange indeed to call her too self-centered. She simply had no deeper interest in boys or relationships whatsoever. It seems like preparing Enishi and Takako's wedding, seeing Minchi agonize over Tohru, and finally hearing those words from her otherwise scumbag mom finally awoke her. Love is anyway a two-sided affair (if it's to be a fruitful relationship), so in that sense it would have done Ko little good if Ohana had said "okay" earlier yet had had zilch interest and had only let Ko get frustrated and disappointed. If Ko is still waiting, at least it should progress to some direction now.

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    Ohana keeps calling it a one-sided crush... wtf? She knows full well Ko likes her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Ohana keeps calling it a one-sided crush... wtf? She knows full well Ko likes her.
    After witnessing Minchi's passion and even hearing such completely surprising talk from her mother, she must think a one-sided crush is the coolest thing in the world... But then again, if Ko isn't single anymore, that's what it's going to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli
    - What is going on with Minchi and Toruh now? Did he reject her or not? From how happy Minchi seems, that doesnīt seem likely, but I havenīt seen enough evidence for the opposite, too.
    I think Minko thought Tohru was a completely lost cause when she found out that he liked Ohana to a degree. She thought he'd only have eyes for Ohana from now on, and so decided to bail as well as force Ohana onto him to keep him happy. When he told her that he'll still look out for her despite not really having the same kind of feeling for her, she was happy that Tohru's still the same really..

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    After witnessing Minchi's passion and even hearing such completely surprising talk from her mother, she must think a one-sided crush is the coolest thing in the world... But then again, if Ko isn't single anymore, that's what it's going to be.
    I wouldn't call it a one-sided crush if Ko still has feelings for Ohana yet wasn't single. He just got tired of waiting and decided to give himself and another girl a chance.. but yeah, Ohana... that rush makes me wonder if she even knows what a one-sided crush really is. She keeps using "I've decided" as if it's something you pick, rather than something you come to terms with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    but yeah, Ohana... that rush makes me wonder if she even knows what a one-sided crush really is. She keeps using "I've decided" as if it's something you pick, rather than something you come to terms with.
    It's a bit of both for her. She clearly has had feelings for Ko. We have seen her miss him and think of him. So, it's more like she has decided not to deny those feelings anymore and stop thinking she has interest in nothing but the inn.

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    I'm glad. It wouldn't have surprised me with a realistic (in a sense) show like this if Ko had already moved on, but I'm infinitely happy he hadn't. There was a time I even thought we wouldn't see him ever again. But now it's, probably, all good with Ko still in love with Ohana and Ohana at least thinking she might have a thing for him as well. Although as immature as she is, it's impossible to say how it will end. I hope she won't reject Ko to keep it a one-side crush... I wouldn't put that beyond Ohana.

    Takako knowing enough kung fu to throw the fat man was priceless.

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    If only Ohana's mum wasn't such an irresponsible person... but that might come hand in hand with her style. She sure is a milf alright.

    I'm not sure how Takako's going to get that money out of the fat guy. Last time I remember he was in debt, and used all the budget to pay it off.

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    [HorribleSubs] Hanasaku Iroha - 24 [720p].mkv

    So, it might seem the idea that Okami doesn't want to give "Kissuisso" is right. Or at least it's part of her attitude.
    She doesn't want to give what makes her inn, with her name. But she might give the place, with another name and someone making it their place. Just that subtle, yet all important difference.

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    I'm not so sure of that, although it migth turn out that way. She uttered some pretty emo words of not wanting to tie people to the inn that was her and the late husband's dream. I wonder if she could have been so superficial that just changing the name would really change anything. I wouldn't want to think so badly of her, but it looked more like she had decided a long time ago to simply take the inn to the grave with herself and not hand it over to anybody. Who knows if the reason is purely sentimental or if she finds it unacceptable that anybody else could ever love the inn like she and her husband did. Normally people should be happy to hand things they built over to their offspring, but now it's deeply complicated by Okami believing she did great injustice to her children and leaving Enishi with the inn would only hurt him further.

    Ko was quite a smooth talker in this episode. He must have studied some suitable books while working at the bookstore to accumulate such wisdom... He certainly left Ohana speechless. Jolly good. If the inn is saved and Ohana gets together with Ko, it's going to be a winner ending. I do hope to see some scenes with Ko meeting the other staff before the end, as well.

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    I think I understand what the Okami is saying... Enishi is already making bad decisions by getting on the bad side of all the other inns just because 'they are busy'... when its practically a requisite to help on the festival. Heck... after all... most are reserving the day of the festival. She wants them all to succeed... and if doing so means to close the inn she is willing to do so unless they prove her wrong. So far no one has done anything to convince her... Enishi can't carry the burden of the inn with his half-thought decisions.

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