I think this anime pretty much is telling us Ohana is the successor to the inn...
She's familly
She's able to have people following her ideas and most of the time good ones at that
She loves the place
She only needs experience.
Okami-san being only in her late 60's, she might live long enough to train Ohana into the head of Kissuisso for at least 5 if not 10 years.
Just my 2 cents.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Yeah, Ohana inheriting popped into my mind the moment Okamisan told Takako they won't. Although there would be huge practical difficulties just five years probably wouldn't be able to solve. Ohana knows nothing of management, larger financies, business legislation, business practices (running a company with employees, bureaucracy), dealing with other businesses (partners, suppliers, competitors)... Well, 10 years might be enough especially if a part of it was getting a degree from an appropriate business school.
Minko really was cracking in this episode. As much as she wants to be a fine cook, she's, in the end, still a girl, not a woman, and thus the situation with Tohru and Ohana affects her disastrously. On the other hand, if it didn't affect her at this point, she surely wouldn't move forward at all. This might finally push her to confess to Tohru.
Enishi not evolved at all? Were we watching the same episode? Until a couple episodes ago, he could barely get up the determination to confront his mother about anything, followed Takako around like a lost puppy, and was easily beaten into submission by Takako or anyone else. Now he's determined to commit to a given plan, accept sole responsibility for the consequences, willing to make Takako happy by any means necessary, and stand up to his mother (or sister most likely) in order to get what he wants.Originally Posted by MFauli
He spent pretty much the entire day in that latter part of the episode calling everyone he knew at all to get him a discount on a high-quality ring for Takako. He's glad that his "family" at the inn is so happy to pitch in to help them save money, but he was firm in not allowing Takako to have a cheap ring.
As for Takako herself, she tried to cancel the wedding (temporarily) because she could see it was too much of a burden for both the inn and Enishi. She didn't want him to feel like he wasn't going to be good enough for her, that he had let her down by settling for a discount wedding. If anything, her trying to postpone/cancel the wedding is what convinced Sui that she could give Takako and Enishi her old wedding ring. Sui knew at that moment that Takako would be willing to forgo her own happiness for the sake of her would-be husband, that Takako would be a devoted and loving wife. Same goes for all the effort Enishi was putting forth to make sure Takako would have a memorable wedding despite the circumstances.
Just like Sui and her husband were to each other.
I wouldn't be so sure. I agree that Ohana would have quite a bit of things to go through (certainly most of what you detailed), but it wouldn't be like she doesn't have a very talented family to back her up. If Sui asks Enishi and Takako to support Ohana as she takes over as the Okami of Kissuisuo, Ohana would be pretty well set. Despite all her crazy schemes, we found out during the movie scam that Takako does have a strong business sense. She tries out a lot of crazy things to make money quick, but she's really rather competent when it comes to regular finances. Enishi knows the inn since he's lived their his entire life (except college...and maybe even then), so he could certainly take the place of Momiji after he retires or passes away. There is a talented wait staff and kitchen crew. While Ohana trained up on the details, the rest of the staff can cover the gaps.
Ohana already knows the vital part of the operation from when Sui was in the hospital. Repeat customers are their lifeblood, and taking good notes ensures that the treatment they receive will have them keep coming back.
edit: The toughest part of training would to have her learn to tone down the spaz and act more dignified.
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I admit if Enishi and Takako actually stayed behind to assist Ohana (swallowing the humiliation), it would most likely work easily enough, assuming they would listen to anything Ohana says. I, however, discounted that possibility. Perhaps hastily.
Takako wanted to cancel the wedding because she thought that Okami would not let Enishing inherit the inn if they were to marry. Her comments when Okami gave her the ring indicate so.
I think the reason Okami said what she did about Enishi inheriting the inn is because she intends to close it down. At the beginning of the episode, Okami was discussing something with Denroku. I think it is about the impossibility of keeping the inn afloat.
Peace.
That would explain why she was ok with Enishi and Takako experimenting in the last few episodes.
I did not see that.
Maybe there's a twist to it too, after all that inn is after her name and she doesn't want to give Kissuisuou, but would give the inn, like the previous owners did
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Bean-man looked so... weird. Like, scheming, smiley-face weird.
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That's not the way I took it. Sui got her old ring the very moment Takako suggested that she wanted to cancel the wedding, before she stated that she, 'understood why they couldn't be in charge of the inn.' The rest of Takako's lines are supporting her belief that Sui hates her. Takako has the impression that Sui thinks she is reckless (from all her stupid schemes). Takako was more likely trying to prove herself (for Enishi, for herself, for society, doesn't really matter). Her schemes and Enishi being a bit of a dummy are why she said the line about Sui thinks they're not worthy to run the inn.
Arguments supporting Takako's belief that Sui hates her, arguments that she isn't worthy of being Sui's daughter in law. Sui's story really meant that she and her husband also faced tough times, but it was good enough that they wanted to stand by each other. Where Takako was mistaken was in thinking that being given the ring also meant that she and Enishi should take over the inn. Sui gave her the ring because Takako admitted she wasn't worthy...which in turn makes her worthy. Humility is a big thing for Sui, even if it is the antithesis of her own daughter's disposition.
As for Momiji, wasn't there a line a few episodes ago about how he was away visiting family? I'd be far more willing to believe that he was telling Sui that he was going to retire, and that his family had offered him a place in their home, wherever that is. That's why her expression was both accepting yet wistful. He's been with them the whole time, and thus his departure would make her sad. It wasn't something she said to him, it was something he said to her. "This is my final work log," or something to that effect.
edit: It wasn't the finances book. Sui and Enishi handle that. It was a work log. Unless the boilers are going to explode, it isn't something that will close down the inn.
That outcome supports my belief that Sui will ask Takako and Enishi to support the other successor, be it either Ohana or Satsuki.
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After 22 eps I still can't predict, even with the preview, if Ko is still actually single and waiting for Ohana or if he got together with the bookshop girl and Ohana is in for a completely different sort of experience in love than what she was expecting. Naturally I hope Ko was patiently waiting for the fickle girl, but honestly a nasty plot element like that in this show wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Anyway, this episode was quite nice. Really heated emotions but fortunately the whole issue with Minchi was solved before it got ridiculous. It was excellent Tohru was exposed to it purely by chance. That saved a lot of unnecessary drama. Although the cat fight wasn't a bad watch.
I liked the episode overall, BUT:
- What is going on with Minchi and Toruh now? Did he reject her or not? From how happy Minchi seems, that doesnīt seem likely, but I havenīt seen enough evidence for the opposite, too.
- Ohana is a self-centered bitch, finally confirmed. She knows that she likes Ko-chan, but she waits until after the wedding before she tells him. See, if she said "Iīm not sure if I really like him or not", I wouldnīt have a problem here. But since she is in the clear about her own feeling, it is just unfair and a horrible thing to do to him. Because Ohana has to assume that Ko-chan is still single and still likes her aaand is still waiting for her reply to his confession. Every day Ohana is waiting is a day Ko-chan has to suffer through. So, yeah, thatīs really shitty on her part.
Btw. how is that possible that Nako-chan never loved someone? Iīm pretty sure it isnīt the boysī fault that she isnīt more experienced in these regards :P
I don't think she's been doing it because she's self-centered. She's just utterly inexperienced and also immature. Considering how much she has been helping others at the inn (and also the foreign inn) without expecting a reward, it would be strange indeed to call her too self-centered. She simply had no deeper interest in boys or relationships whatsoever. It seems like preparing Enishi and Takako's wedding, seeing Minchi agonize over Tohru, and finally hearing those words from her otherwise scumbag mom finally awoke her. Love is anyway a two-sided affair (if it's to be a fruitful relationship), so in that sense it would have done Ko little good if Ohana had said "okay" earlier yet had had zilch interest and had only let Ko get frustrated and disappointed. If Ko is still waiting, at least it should progress to some direction now.
Ohana keeps calling it a one-sided crush... wtf? She knows full well Ko likes her.
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After witnessing Minchi's passion and even hearing such completely surprising talk from her mother, she must think a one-sided crush is the coolest thing in the world... But then again, if Ko isn't single anymore, that's what it's going to be.
I think Minko thought Tohru was a completely lost cause when she found out that he liked Ohana to a degree. She thought he'd only have eyes for Ohana from now on, and so decided to bail as well as force Ohana onto him to keep him happy. When he told her that he'll still look out for her despite not really having the same kind of feeling for her, she was happy that Tohru's still the same really..
I wouldn't call it a one-sided crush if Ko still has feelings for Ohana yet wasn't single. He just got tired of waiting and decided to give himself and another girl a chance.. but yeah, Ohana... that rush makes me wonder if she even knows what a one-sided crush really is. She keeps using "I've decided" as if it's something you pick, rather than something you come to terms with.
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It's a bit of both for her. She clearly has had feelings for Ko. We have seen her miss him and think of him. So, it's more like she has decided not to deny those feelings anymore and stop thinking she has interest in nothing but the inn.
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I'm glad. It wouldn't have surprised me with a realistic (in a sense) show like this if Ko had already moved on, but I'm infinitely happy he hadn't. There was a time I even thought we wouldn't see him ever again. But now it's, probably, all good with Ko still in love with Ohana and Ohana at least thinking she might have a thing for him as well. Although as immature as she is, it's impossible to say how it will end. I hope she won't reject Ko to keep it a one-side crush... I wouldn't put that beyond Ohana.
Takako knowing enough kung fu to throw the fat man was priceless.
If only Ohana's mum wasn't such an irresponsible person... but that might come hand in hand with her style. She sure is a milf alright.
I'm not sure how Takako's going to get that money out of the fat guy. Last time I remember he was in debt, and used all the budget to pay it off.
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So, it might seem the idea that Okami doesn't want to give "Kissuisso" is right. Or at least it's part of her attitude.
She doesn't want to give what makes her inn, with her name. But she might give the place, with another name and someone making it their place. Just that subtle, yet all important difference.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
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