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    I'm pretty sure the reason Minko didn't want to add the Omurice was due to the fact that it was simple and she couldn't show it off to Tohru. Not that it was hard to make, or hard to make it taste good on a hot plate.

    Also, omelet rice is easy as all hell to make, even on a hot plate (electric too). I've done it before numerous times. It's also facetious that she's trying to cook Jibuni with Beef (not to mention Beef takes much longer to cook than eggs) and Miso Mackerel which is a much harder dish to make than a simple Omelet Rice.


    edit: Although I could be wrong in the fact that Minko or the show's creators do in fact believe you can't make an Omelet Rice that tastes good on an electric hot plate.
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    If they prepare the rice beforehand, the omurice can indeed taste practically the same even on a hotplate.
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    Heh, personally I'm siding with Minko on this one. While her own actions could be influenced by Tohru... she did had a good point towards a dish badly prepared is not good for a chef in training like her. In her own mind every dish must be perfect... and dishes she wanted herself couldn't be done due to the limitations.

    Heh... I used to dislike Minko at the start of the series. Now? She probably is my favorite after Ohana.

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    While she did look sincere when she said that, I really don't see how making omurice with a hot plate is much different from making it with a pan. In fact, it might even be easier to fold and seal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I think it does matter, and the broiled fish was a key part of it. Minko wasn't really happy about being put in charge of cooking initially. She wasn't really all that enthused about it until Tohru suggested that he might stop by. From that point forward, Minko got super excited about the task, and really focused on making it as perfect as possible.
    Fired up sure I'll agree on that but that doesn't mean she wouldn't have taken the task as seriously as she did after all she was put in charge of cooking even though she was reluctant I'll bet that part of her is happy for the chance to serve her food and could be seen as training. As I said in my eyes she's full of pride when it comes to work and would have worked just as hard no matter if he was coming or not. Of course this is only a theory but I can't see Minko doing a half assed job in something when cooking is involved since it'd go against everything we've seen about her so far, can you see her doing that?

    And again I don't think her romantic feelings to Tohru matters because when you've given such a chance like she was given thanks to him you'd want to show that they weren't wrong or at least show that you've improved, it doesn't have to be perfect like you said just not so-so. I would have done the same thing if I was confident that the omelet rice would only turn out meh.

    The only thing I think she did wrong is the way she handled it but in her defense the other girl is the one that started throwing a hiss and scream, Minko on the other hand didn't reply angrily away but answered normally though her choice of words might not have been the best and then you got the girls ganging up on her immediately. Also we don't know what happened while Ohana was out so she might have explained why they can't make a good omelet rice on a hot plate.

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    While she did look sincere when she said that, I really don't see how making omurice with a hot plate is much different from making it with a pan. In fact, it might even be easier to fold and seal.
    Seeing as they're making such a big deal out of it I'm guessing it's not that easy, I've never made it myself nor cooked anything on a hot plate, the omelet might work fine but what about the rice etc? Then again you did say they could prepare it before hand. Of course if could be something unexpected like that fact that Minko just don't know how to make it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireheart View Post
    Seeing as they're making such a big deal out of it I'm guessing it's not that easy, I've never made it myself nor cooked anything on a hot plate, the omelet might work fine but what about the rice etc? Then again you did say they could prepare it before hand. Of course if could be something unexpected like that fact that Minko just don't know how to make it.
    They are allowed to use a rice cooker, so the rice is not an issue.

    In regards to how easy it is to make omelet rice on a hotplate, I don't know about in other countries, but in the US these days, you're lucky if you can get a hotplate that will boil a pot of water. Electric kettles are great, but it's hard to actually cook on a tiny element "burner" that turns itself off all the time in the name of safety. Good luck finding the right temperature as well. If anything, this is probably what Minko is concerned about. She's used to using professional level equipment, and furthermore, natural gas. if you want to cook outside of a kitchen, that's what propane stoves are for...at least in my country (either portable burners or a gas grill). That's not the worst thing though. Countertop Fryers in the US will barely get to 350°F (175C), much less the 400°F (205C) that you need to cook tempura and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    They are allowed to use a rice cooker, so the rice is not an issue.
    I thought it's suppose to be stir-fried rice not cooked rice.
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    I have made the dish about a dozen times, with different variations.

    Like I said, if you prepare the rice (not just plain rice, but with the chicken and the tomato sauce/ketchup, or whatever variation you decide to do) ahead of time with an actual wok/pan, it should not affect the flavor of the dish. You only need to cook the beaten egg on the hotplate, place the rice on top, then fold. This is the correct way to do it if you are running a small restaurant or cafe.

    If she intends to cook it fresh each time with that equipment, well, good luck.
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    Turns out, improper cooking equipment is exactly why Minko refused the first time. By the looks of the "hotplate" (read: under-powered griddle), I'd say her concerns were well founded. That griddle isn't even elevated off the surface, so it can't possibly put out any real heat. Even after Minko was taught the alternative method by Minko, Ohana, and Yuina, they still ended up with stiff, overcooked eggs a few times by the looks of it. Minko had zero issues making it in a proper kitchen. Amusingly, omelet rice happens to be one of her favorite meals. That goes a long way into explaining why she was so insistent it wasn't going to be done if it was going to end up poorly made.

    Mini-Minko was adorable. I wonder if we'll ever see a smile like that from her now that she's older. That's more of an Ohana expression, and I honestly have trouble imagining current-Minko using that without coming off creepy.

    Also in this episode: Ohana has been reduced to comedy relief status. :/

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    That was the most positive possible solution to the omelet rice issue. It wasn't all to surprising a young cook like Minchi, who had extra pressure to show the laymen she really is a pro, didn't think of a corners-cut omurice herself. With Tohru going to pay a visit, she could only think of the best alternative. Too bad her efforts were partially wasted with Tohru making the wrong assumption every single serving had "love" written on it...

    If I judged correctly the next ep preview, Minko won't have a reason to smile brightly in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Too bad her efforts were partially wasted with Tohru making the wrong assumption every single serving had "love" written on it...
    I hated this sooo much. You think that finally there´s some progress in the plot, and then it´s all for nothing. Sigh.

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    Tohru is way too oblivious. Overall fantastic ep. Though like Ryll didn't quite like that Ohana was used for comic relief this time around. But I really liked how she and Minko argued when cutting the onions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell View Post
    Tohru is way too oblivious.
    I really can't blame him since he saw the other dish though. As he said, he never even had omurice and assumed "love" just comes with the package.

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    He's never made omurice. He didn't say he hasn't eaten it before.

    Rebirth of Die... I just hope Tohru really does not like Ohana seriously. That will make the story too melodramatic and soapy for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    He's never made omurice. He didn't say he hasn't eaten it before.
    Ah, my bad then.

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    I actually want Tohru to end up with Ohana, but that won't happen =P

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    Ohana should apologize to Ko-chan and give him a nice....oh sorry, cannot write that.

    Anyway, you know who´s kinda annoying me? Nako-chan. We had a whole episode showing her personal growth, but now it seems that she´s completely back to "normal". It somehow bothers me how extremely shy she´s acting again. Being shy is only cute for so long.

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    just watched 20 and 21

    EP 20 Regarding the omurice, I'm fairly sure Tohru would notice the Love and heart size are a lot different in his plate.

    EP 21: I loved Ren-san's reaction to Tomoe's inner speech

    I loved the last scene too.

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    okay, at this point in time, about the only person I don´t hate is the head chef.

    Damn, this episode made my dislike everyone

    - Tohru being dense as ever
    - Minko still unable to confess
    - Ohana being her usual dumb self
    - Nako, well, nothing in this episode, but her shyness in general
    - Enishi seemingly having not evolved at all, still to naive (but at least a good natured person)
    - Takako almost canceling the wedding, wtf. Way to break a man´s heart, bitch.
    - Okamisan, not letting Enishi and Takako succeed the inn. Seriously, if she gives it to Ohana´s bitch mum, I´ll have to destroy something

    Here´s what I want to happen in the left episodes:

    - Tohru and Minko getting together
    - Ohana apologizing to Kou-chan and getting together with him
    - Enishi and Takako proving that they´re capable of running the inn
    - Okamisan allowing them to succeed the inn
    - Nako-chan getting together with the pervert author, for the lulz

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