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not really feeling the designs of hodi & vander decken
but this confirms fishmen can eat devil fruits
what was up with the glove thing when the 2 shook hands?
Last edited by Tofu #2; Wed, 02-02-2011 at 01:20 PM.
Mermaid princess confirmed for moe, Oda style.
This arc is shaping up to become just as everyone predicted, a few new powerful villains show up to be absolutely ravaged in a show of the Straw Hats' new power. Even the weakest members of the crew stood like giants before the fishman guards, and lets not forget even for fooder they're supposedly much stronger than the average human.
He has trouble shaking hands because he only has two fingers and those things around his fingers make it more difficult as well.Originally Posted by Tofu #2
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
I thought he couldn't shake hands outside his bubble because he doesnt want to touch seawater (his DF), but his wrist was also in the water so I suppose that doesn't make much sense?
It's Oda, there has to be some meaning behind it.
Maybe his fruit power is like bon clay's in the sense that if he right hand touches you, you become a target. Also luffy has the haki for sensing attacks! I was thinking it would be extremely useful in this terrain considering the coral and potentially dark parts of the sea would provide excellent hiding spots for fishmen. I bet some of them might also have ink moves depending on what kind of fishmen they are. I'm curious if deken has the ability to be in the sea though....gotta go back and check if he was in a bubble.
Zoro is a badass.....that is all
Well only half of decken's body is in the bubble. Maybe being a fishman let's half of your body become vulnerable to the sea. That would then raise some questions like: why don't more fishmen/mermen eat DFS? Does the type of DF matter(like paramecia and zoans vs paramecia and logia that changes your whole body)?
I read that in Medieval times, shaking hands while wearing a glove is a sign of betrayal.
Maybe whatever he touches with his bare hands will prompt him to throw that object?
I love that Oda actually gave a fishman a devils fruit. That's genius.
The bubble thing, I dunno... Luffy had a bubble that only surrounded his upper half, and then his legs were just coated otherwise, maybe it's just a design oversight. If a fishman with a devil's fruit is exposed to sea water, what happens, exactly? Do they just sink to the ocean floor and lay there motionless? Can they still breathe?
A lot of the sets in this arc is kind of confusing. It's hard to tell half the time whether they're underwater or not. Neptune looks like he's floating around, but obviously the strawhats shouldn't be able to just stand there if the palace was filled with water.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I can usually tell by the air bubbles in the background that come from the characters breathing. It is kind of confusing, you can see the air bubbles in the background of the panels when their in the palace, but it doesnt make sense how the strawhats can breathe.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/90932202/16
I was thinking that too in the princess's room, but then I noticed the shark was partially in a bubble, so that justifies him floating around the room, I guess... The seahorse guy seems to have no problem hovering around the palace, though.
If Neptune was smart, he'd rig his castle to flood with water as a defense against any surface-dwellers that attack.
Last edited by Assertn; Wed, 02-02-2011 at 06:58 PM.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well I wonder what the deal is with the rest of his crew and ship. The ship isn't coated except for one portion
here http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/90932202/3
Ok so when those no names get owned by hodi jones their ship was coated but then when he was done with them they put them in a bubble to float them back to the surface. When they left their base the were underwater, so it looks like jones' crew can all remain under water coating and bubble free but decken's crew might have some fruit users seeing as how a portion of his ship is coated. It looks like hodi's crew doesn't require a ship that needs a coating.
Of course Hodi's crew doesn't need a coating. They're fishmen.
I imagine the bubble is strictly for Van DerDecken.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I love how everyone is batshit crazy. Decken, Hodi... Plus, Usopp, Nami and Brooke looked really cool (and Brooke was scary, drawing his sword).
About Decken's hands... I thought he was just making "scissors" with his fingers, kinda like a rapper. Probably like toonice said, there's something DF-related.
I'll be disappointed if the predicted war was actually because the Fishmen attacked the Straw Hats.
I don`t get it, why would Decken need a bubble? he`s a fishman too.
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
I thought the coating wasn't so much for the crew to breathe under water but also for the ship to be able to make the journey to fishmen island.otherwise they would've ended up at marjorea(sp?). The whole reason for the coating was to avoid that so I just assumed all ships under the sea needed coating to stay under. If the fishmen don't need coating on their ships what is so different about their vessels that allows them to avoid that process. B/c it was stated that the underwater pressure would break the 1000 sunny go.
The same reason Decken is in a bubble in the last page. Even though he can breathe in water, he still gets paralyzed due to the devil fruit power.
Eh, well, the faux-science of One Piece is arguable, but if I could propose a reason why something would collapse under the water pressure, I could suggest it's due to the oxygen contained within the vessel. The reason people die from submerging too fast is because the air in their tanks get compressed due to the water pressure. Since the ship (and their submarine, for that matter) has air for the pirates to breathe, that air can become a vacuum that causes the ship to cave in on itself. The Flying Dutchess is hardly a sealed vessel, as evident by holes all in the hull of the ship. It's basically just pieces of wood drifting along the ocean floor.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well I guess that's good enough for me. it is after all a world full of pirates and strange powers. I think I can suspend my disbelief on something a simple as a bubble being necessary for a ship to move the story along. It is my favorite manga right now b/c of the fluid and interesting story. Also its not crazy repetitive.
Hopefully the explination on decken's fruit ability and his fishmen body might give us some insight on how inanimate objects can absorb DFs. That will be cool to have some theories on that
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