If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Phryne is starting to piss me off, while Nessa just keeps winning points despite her crybaby antics.
Peace.
They've both been earning points so far for me, but exactly what can Phryne do about all this by going back? The only way any convincing will work on the Fractale people is to tell them to abandon it and let Lost Millennium destroy it - fat chance that will happen as they probably rely on it more than even the citizens do.
She tried running from it to get away from all this, and now she wants to go back? Hmm. :S
If the two keys are needed to reboot Fractale, what they should have done is attack with Nessa and protect Phryne at home. As long as Clain wants her to, she will just appear there and fry the place apart without so much as even try to make her way past its physical defences.
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They probably didn't want to use such a cute kid as a weapon. I know I wouldn't. I'd keep both Phryne and Nessa at home, and you know, make use of them some other way. I'm sure I can think of something
Peace.
Yeah, they did say they didn't want to drag any non-Lost Millennium people into this.Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
They probably didn't want to use such a cute kid as a weapon. I know I wouldn't. I'd keep both Phryne and Nessa at home, and you know, make use of them some other way. I'm sure I can think of something
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I hope she has a real plan, but who knows - at least I think she doesn't really plan to return. One of the keys to her behavior could be her firm belief she doesn't deserve to be loved. So, she's actually running away from Clain as much as she's trying to confront her past. Has it actually been explained yet why she thinks she deserves no happiness? I can't remember. Is it because of some past sin she committed, like taking no action before now, or even something worse (or even something silly like thinking her fate is to die unhappy because she was essentially born/created as a part of the Fractale system)?
So, while I disliked immensely her decision to flee from Clain and Nessa in the middle of the night, at least I consider it consistent behavior.
I've got a more positive view of Phryne's behavior. She's always running away because she doesn't want to see others involved and therefore hurt by her pursuers. She really, honestly likes Clain. He does a lot for her...or anyone for that matter, doesn't obsess about his own needs by being a zombie to the Fractale system, and never takes anything at face value. Clain seems to have a knack for finding even deeper worth in many things. She admires him deeply for that, and it is the same way Enri started to like Clain, no matter how much of a pervert Enri thinks he is.
The priests have shown nothing but disdain for anyone who gets in their way. Her "father" quite happily hurts others to keep Phryne docile, compliant, and just because they're in his way.
Phryne knows that Nessa and her being together is part of the master plan, so she does whatever she can to keep her and Nessa apart. She also seems to want Nessa to be happy now that they no longer hate each other, so she leaves Nessa with Clain and then runs off on her own. It's hard not to admire Phryne's self-sacrificial behavior, even if it isn't the best thing for her.
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Episode 11 Final - UTW
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One strong indication of the very limited human population was how the Fractale system with all of it satellites, space elevator, and ships and all the other stuff was maintained by such a tiny crew seemingly composed of little more than a bunch of clones, a pedophile commander, and a brainwashed, half-witless company of guards. It's a small miracle in itself that Lost Millennium needed to try to do anything to fight it and not just wait for it to disappear on its own. But I suppose the manufacturing and programming standards must have been pretty good for it to run a thousand years on its own.
One has to wonder, though, how Clain and Phryne/Nessa got down from the orbit with the Earth end of the elevator blown up...
All in all a pleasant series with a pretty strong atmosphere and a funny mix of near-Ghible style and quite ruthless action. I wouldn't have wanted anything but a mushy happy ending like this.
Quite a little head-scratcher series though. For one, Clain's dog was one of those "incomplete" doppels, which I wasn't expecting since they said Fractale had rebooted. Perhaps it has to do with actual satellites breaking down and limiting the bandwidth and information the doppel can use to take form or something.. who knows.
Somehow they managed to gloss over the whole rape thing without mentioning it at all. While it does keep things a bit tasteful and tame while leaving a reading for the more mature minds, it only adds to the confusion a little - only a little...
I'm never 100% fond of series that introduce weird and interesting systems about the world without every explaining how the whole thing came about. Why was this "god" a girl in the first place, why must they separate her spirit from her body, and why must there be this "god" anyway..
This is another one of those series that go down under the tag of "unique", but perhaps a more accurate description would be that it was strange, I never really understoody what happened, and while it overall leaves an average-to-above-average impression I wish I could like it more than i did (though not to say I didn't like it in the first place).
Two other shows that the above description would also apply to would be Xam'd and Sora no Woto.
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Xam'd clearly fits
Sora no Woto is different in that the moe and slice of life parts are very entertaining/fun/useful and you can really like it without caring for the background story.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
@Buff - I understand your analysis on this show. It leaves so many mysteries, and never tries to solve any of them. Still, I think that the presentation was quite good. Even in our own history, so many things are unexplained or unknown. It might be even more unnatural for them to suddenly explain everything in their history for the sake of letting the viewers know.
The "why" questions will always exist in any story, especially if it is a thousand years old. I think the teenage girl god also gives a good commentary on how we perceive religion and deities as humans. What if indeed our own gods are nothing grand but something so ordinary? What if the society we have grown accustomed to is nothing but a shackle built upon what we would now consider as insignificant? Do we merely lift up such ideas and images for our own benefit or due to our insecurity? Is this tendency to create grandiose tales of religion and history inescapable? These are the questions that have been presented to me by Fractale, so I am not mindful of a few unanswered mysteries.
...is what I would like to say, but I have to ask this one. When exactly did Phryne get raped by her "father"? Wasn't her "father" checking her virginity when she was placed on that chair?
I think they mentioned that the body and spirit division was for security purposes, but I am not sure. Better to have 2 keys for a lock than one if you want it safe.
I also agree that it feels a lot like Xam'd, but I prefer the ending of Fractale much more.
Peace.
Yeah, Sora no Woto rates pretty highly. I threw it it there primarily to support the statement that could still love it more if they made the whole thing complete.
Yeah.. any takers?
One other major thing that confused me here was Phryne's blank expression. What did that indicate? She also entered into a sort of blank state when the Nomad pervert tried his moves on her - but that one could have also been a blackout.
It's funny how the one thing Clain left the world with after this adventure is his legendary level of pervertedness.
I didn't read as deeply into Fractale as you did Shinta, and I wonder if I would have appreciated it more if I had. I think the whole idea was that you could take it as an easy adventure series, or a deeper-questioning one - and I took the easy way out.
Something like Ergo Proxy pretty much forced me to take the effort into figuring stuff out, for better or worse. (and then i still had to read some guy's analysis of the whole thing after it finished, lol.)
Fractale ending > Xam'd ending for sure.
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Maybe her "father" didn't penetrate, but just did other things? But that doesn't make sense, since it was heavily implied in the guy's speech that the loss of virginity was necessary to complete the body of the key.
I think Phryne has a long history of sexual abuse, so she starts blanking out when she encounters it again. She just blanked out and snapped when she stabbed her "father", probably because Clain was listening to the revelation and she feared his judgment.
Peace.
The important thing is that since she's now a Phryne/Nessa hybrid, Clain might have a chance to get a family by not getting stabbed in the middle of making it.
I agree with shinta's hypothesis that Phryne has a long history of sexual abuse. From the way the 'father' talked, it seemed like this was something that had been going on a while. I'm surprised she's not more messed up, honestly. It explains a lot of her weird irrational behaviour. This series was actually quite dark overall, but the addition of Nessa always lightened it up, keeping the weightiness of the tough issues they addressed from becoming depressing.
For me, I felt like this series was all about identity. The overall theme being the struggle to define ourselves as humans - do we let ourselves be defined by the limits of what society tells us (in this case, the Fractale system) or do we define ourselves by our independence? The doppels added an extra interesting aspect to this. I think the best episode of the series was when they were in Xanadu, and interacted with the two artists. For people with doppels, what is their identity? Is it what they create in Fractale, or is it who they are in the real world? If Fractale is taken away, does that rob people of their identities, or are those identities essentially false and should be stripped away? Even with Phryne and Nessa, Clain was always affirming their identities as individuals, and validating them as unique and valuable, while the Temple kept trying to assign them identities as tools meant to be used or replaced. I think one of the reasons Phryne was able to choose to become the key was because she became secure in her identity as an individual. This series raises so many questions and manages to sidestep answering them. I like that in the end there was no winner, no clear-cut message about what identity is true or which method is better. It is simply each person who must decide for themselves what their identity is.
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