He's the son of the man who threw Victorica into the cell, so it's natural he's an asshole. But on the other hand, he seems to be granting Victorica more freedom than their old man would be willing to. Perhaps he's partly saying that to Victorica in order to coax her seek love. He has made no attempt to keep Kujou from her, after all, so he's not really that rotten.
That's my general impression of him before he spouted what he did at the end of the episode.Originally Posted by Kraco
That's.. coaxing?Perhaps he's partly saying that to Victorica in order to coax her seek love. He has made no attempt to keep Kujou from her, after all, so he's not really that rotten.
I didn't expect thepedophileevil-looking man from the OP to be Victorique's father at all. Since she was released or at least not killed, I had assumed he was a half decent man with only a stubbon family-name pride.
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If I recall correctly, their family name is a bit out of prestigiousness, so the old man might have let Victorica out to allow her to help the detective son restory some of their fame and power. That would also explain the library better than anything else: It allows her to learn as much as can be learned without interacting too much with strangers.
However, I don't think there's any chance spiralhead would actually like Victorica. My guess is he doesn't want her to sully the name further, wants her to understand love so that she would understand how much loving a married woman would make him suffer (yet still want to help the woman), and naturally he also wants to have Victorica on hand to solve any difficult cases. As long as the last condition remains true, he can't do anything too evil, though. Ironically the more Victorica helps him, though, the better the chance he will get promoted to some office of power where deduction isn't needed, only sufficient skills to organize and delegate. That could be a decisive moment for Victorica.
Derp - Episode 12
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Victorique can't tie her shoelace?!
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Victorique - Episode 03
edit: I meant 13. Thanks animus.
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This looks like a decent arc. Even Victorica needed to leave her tower to figure it out. The case itself also looks promising and has a nice background. I was somehow reminded of The Name of The Rose when the oriental collapsed with the coloured finger but that's just a fleeting association.
It looks like things are going to get a bit more challenging for our golden fairy. I hope this trend keeps going. While I like awesome protagonists, a crisis is always more exciting, especially if it is a mental challenge where she excels.
Peace.
I should mention how adorable Victorica's summer dress looks, since no one else has yet.
She was very surly, insolent, and arrogant in this episode. Wonderful. Similar sentiments are directed toward Avril for stepping up her campaign now that she knows about Victorica's gender.
You mean Episode 13 I hope?
Hehe, yeah.
The new ED looks nice, and better reflects this series I think. The earlier one looked like it was going to be some dark, hardcore mysterious detective series. This one's more of a "The adventures of Kujo and Victorique".
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I liked the first ED quite a lot, though, even if it didn't really reflect the visible reality of the show, only Victorica's background. This second one sounded more commonplace.
Yeah, the first ED did sound more grand.
And it gets released on the 27th! ^^
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Or.. perhaps not?
[Nipponsei] Gosick ED1 ED2 Single - Resuscitated Hope [Komine Lisa].zip
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This episode was stuffed to the brim with Victorica "bawh..." moments, but it did hit on something important.
There was also a brighter side to Kujo again. He's certainly Victorica's best friend, and mostly vice-versa, but he wouldn't take any of her shit toward Avril. I was kind of surprised (as was Victorica) that he didn't take the peaceful route at all with the two of them. Sure, he's too dense to figure out why they the two of them are acting like that, but he still took the high road and refused to allow Victorica to be rude to Avril.
Avril did try to apologize (their little feud is certainly her fault), but I think it did hit on an interesting point made a few episodes back. Avril being playfully [jealously] mean to Victorica brought out her unsociable nature. Later, when the two ran off to the town and Victorica initially refused to go out of spite, only to fall flat on her face and end up crying, partly for being left out, and partly because Kujo "abandoned" her. The issue is that she blamed it on Kujo being mad and cruel to her.
She didn't seem to grasp the full reason why she was so upset. As a younger Grevil once accused of her, she doesn't understand love at all. She still views Kujo as "hers" like a possession and treats him primarily as a slave. She might have started to understand when she saved him, but to me it still may be more of a "treasured existence" than her recognizing it as some form of love.
That said, it is still Grevil and their father's fault she turned out that way, locked away and unloved. Of course she wouldn't understand affection, she's never been given any.
A dozen bonus points awarded to Cecile for capturing Victorica in the first place.
Bawhhhhh.......
That face! That face!!!
This episode reminded me why I am what I am.
Peace.
I can't personally call someone a monster without meaning it 100%, so I don't really know what to make of Avril's remark. Was she just easily influenced by everyone and really did think think badly of Victorique's heritage, or was she simply underestimating the weight of her words? (likely).
The library better not be crowded now that everybody knows of Victorique's existence.
Does anyone else think it's weird that scientific glassware has just been sitting in the clocktower for like.. decades now? If people do maintenance work and stuff, you'd think that'd get cleaned out too.
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I refer to myself and a friend of mine as monsters. I mean it, but in a positive sense. I think it all depends on who says it, but I think Victorique is smart enough to know that Avril is not serious about her diction.
Peace.
I can refer to people as "monsters" under certain conditions (like so-and-so is a monster at Street Fighter, or my brother is a "monster" if we were talking about buffets etc) - but straight-out monster is still beyond me.
They've managed to portray it so now everybody including Victorique know Avril was only trying to get a response from her. Only that for me, based on that classroom scene alone, it was really evil sounding. Exactly like the highschool girl-vs-girl taunts we see in some shows.
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I definitely agree that Avril sounded malicious when she said it. I merely wanted to point out that monster can even be taken as a compliment depending on how it is used.
My friend and I use it in a more straightforward manner though, because we are aware of how different we are from most people. Different is not negative, so I am fine with that.
Avril is pretty childish, especially when it comes to her feelings for Kujou. She should just grow up and give up. There is NO way she can defeat that spring of BAAAWHHH.
Peace.
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