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    The difference in filesize on the WhyNot releases is pretty big.. what gives?
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    Kazuya never reaching Satellizer's room was given the moment the other two described what kind of (awesome) meeting it normally is. Although I'd be surprised if Satellizer actually had something like that in mind and not something else like... eating ice cream or watching a movie. But we will never know, I suppose.

    I hope the new tribal girl won't get too much between Kazuya and Satellizer because I'd be far more interested in seeing how things can develop between those two than any stock triangles. But perhaps it will already be solved in the next or the one after that since they seem to take the easy way of finding out who gets the dude. A nice reversal of the usual state of affairs in nature to have two females fight violently over a male...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco
    Although I'd be surprised if Satellizer actually had something like that in mind and not something else like... eating ice cream hamburgers or watching a hamburger movie
    Surely that's what you meant Kraco.

    I can't see Tibet girl as a serious contestant for Kazuya, though she's definitely the persistent type who I'll expect to hang around until she either finds a Limiter of her own, or Kazuya performs the proper Baptism (unlikely to happen in the near future, I see this as the final powerup move). I definitely like her though. A genki ditz is so welcome in a complex full of scheming vixens. (in comparison, she's like an unlearned lion).

    And as much as I like Satellizer, I have to admit that blond third year with wavy hair has better proportions. One can only imagine what is to come with ones so big they need external support.

    It also took me till a few days ago to figure out those "stats" numbers are height and weight. I kept thinking they were the three sizes, and was left wondering:

    1: Where's the third one?
    2: Satellizer's bust is 168.. what on earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penner View Post
    The difference in filesize on the WhyNot releases is pretty big.. what gives?
    .ts was used instead of one of those 200meg raws.

    Rana's introduction was very different in the manwha. I didn't like the way they did it in the anime.

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    Hmmmm more Satellizer goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Surely that's what you meant Kraco.
    I was just giving her the benefit of doubt: That she wouldn't choose hamburgers even for an intimate late night meeting.

    I just came to think that while Rana directly saved Kazuya's neck, she actually also saved the lives of those three bully girls. I've no doubt Satellizer would have killed them for good if they had paralyzed Kazuya.

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    I changed my view on that anime.
    Loads of violence, physical/psychological, loads of fanservice and slutty bodies. Everything I should hate, and yet I'm starting to like it.
    I guess that sometimes, lust is stronger than reason

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    Rana and Satellizer are like opposites in their normal modes (one is very cheerful and outgoing while the other is very shy and closed off), but they really are very similar in a number of ways. They are both quite cold and fairly ruthless once they get irritated. Rana will not stand for injustice, and Satellizer does not stand for being pushed around. They also both have 6 stigmata, so they should be on an equal level of power. Truthfully, I like the triangle conflict. Satellizer will be threatened and grow a greater desire to keep the one Limiter she feels she can finally trust. Rana clearly resonated with Kazuya's power, so she will be equally keen on establishing territory.

    It seems that Atia (silver hair in rolls), Elizabeth (wavy blonde), and the other two schemers are all too eager to pit one outcast (or likely soon to be in Rana's case) transfer student against another.

    But that doesn't mean the third years are entirely wrong. Genetics is a military academy, and Ingrid last episode was correct even though she was misguided about the why. An order is established through the carnivals, and it should be maintained. Perhaps it isn't the best approach because many of the girls end up hating each other, but gross insubordination shouldn't be tolerated. Certainly various third-years are abusing their power, but the three girls here would have been forced to obey either Satellizer or Ganessa had either of them showed up. Rana will likely be a second-year given her combat aptitude, but she'll still be on the bottom having missed the carnival. She could see a fair amount of abuse coming her way shortly.

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    There isn't systematic abuse in any decent, modern military, though. It's present in the shady militaries and militias of the third world and such. Elsewhere things go by the book. Of course individuals in a position of power will always misuse it, occasionally and to a degree, but this show has very much made it look like it's very commonplace and expectable in that school. That doesn't generate a more powerful military force but a fragmented force of potentially deranged individuals incapable of coordinated action or higher military goals (goals not directly benefitting their own standing). But perhaps that's all they need to beat the Novas. Because it's true it could generate really strong individuals, even if it's at the cost of those who were abused to uselessness.

    Of course it's also possible the abuse was established there on purpose to early weed out any weak-willed individuals. That would work in conjunction with generating strong individuals not possessing military skills but lone warrior skills.

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    Episode 5v2

    [WhyNot] Freezing - 05v2 - Uncensored: Torrent | DDL

    New encode to fix a problem that people had with the aspect ratio.

    If you are having problems with the AR, then you can either just override the AR to 4:3 in your media player or download the v2 here. No patch because it is a new encode. We also fixed the naming mistake and a few minor errors in the script and encode. The naming mistake was Hiiargi –> Hiiragi. We typoed it when fixing the names… By we I mean EpicNaruto.

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    Episode 06

    [WhyNot] Freezing 06 - Uncensored: Torrent | DDL
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    I take my words back. Rana's just as annoying as the others. The fact that she acts all happy normally until her darker feelings kick in makes it more so than the other girls I think.

    I'm really starting to wonder if the Japanese really don't lock their doors or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I'm really starting to wonder if the Japanese really don't lock their doors or something.
    Well, always using sliding door, when using western style door they do not know how to lock them... and do not want to ask how to operate them for fear of being considered retards Yeah, I know, any ressemblance to stereotypes is fortitious

    It really gets repetitive as all we get is first love moments-plotting-fanservice-fight-fanservice-fanservice rinse and repeat.
    Oh, I forgot some pieces of backstory in beetween so that we do not get to think this is all just for fanservice and fights.

    But I like it like it.

    Not much to discuss about the ep, due to the very nature of the show and how it works.

    Moar fights maybe? Moar power-ups?

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    Not that I don't mind the way things are going right now but when the hell are we going to see some actually Pandora fighting Nova?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I take my words back. Rana's just as annoying as the others. The fact that she acts all happy normally until her darker feelings kick in makes it more so than the other girls I think.
    I disagree. I think Rana is fairly simple-minded and honest actually. She's not really like the third years we've seen, calculating, manipulative, and cruel. Right from the start she's been openly challenging Satella, trying to get what she wants. Rana didn't get a chance to get close to him at the hospital, so she went to get friendly with him the first chance she had.

    It was presented to her in the way that Satella was just using Kazuya selfishly. She refuses to perform the baptism with any Limiter, so she is monopolizing Kazuya's special ability for her own selfish desires. Rana's stigma resonate with him, so she knows he is the one she was "meant to be with." The pandora who is currently with him doesn't want him enough to actually commit and claim him, so Rana will take him since Satellizer appears to not want him as much as she [Rana] does.

    She was honest about how she was going to get him too. No ambushing Satella as she came out of the shower, a fair fight. Challenge her to a match, but offer her chances to admit defeat. Rana didn't continue to pound Satella after her Burning Fang attack. That might be the first of that we've ever seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    Not that I don't mind the way things are going right now but when the hell are we going to see some actually Pandora fighting Nova?
    Probably never. :/

    I still think it is a fundamental flaw that they allow so much infighting when they should have the Pandoras learn to collaborate and work together. Maybe then fewer of them would die each time a Nova shows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    I still think it is a fundamental flaw that they allow so much infighting when they should have the Pandoras learn to collaborate and work together. Maybe then fewer of them would die each time a Nova shows up.
    I think it's pretty clear by now the military doctrine they are following is very strong individuals and no cooperation. Who knows, if we tried to find an explanation for that, maybe the early Novas taught them it's just one individual who makes the difference - and possibly always perishes in the process. All the more military like approaches of defeating Novas by larger, more carefully operating units must have failed. In any case, as long as the Novas are scarce enough, it doesn't matter if half of the cadets get killed or incapacitated before graduation and the actual Nova fights are suicide missions.

    What comes to Rana, I fully agree with Ryll: She was just very straight-forward and naive, having no experience of duplicitous manipulators and was thus driven beside herself by all the wicked lies and half-truths. That "darker side" was very expectable after her normal overly glad behavior.

    I'm happy Kazuya told so explicitely what (whom) he wants. Such a relief after watching an IS episode...

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    That anime is not silly enough to tell us that novas are Pandoras that lost control... or Pandoras that evolved with no limiter, or lost their limiter and had an energy boost or something like that...

    Suicide mission? and very self centered indivudals. Something's not right here.
    It's true that we know of two pandoras who died eliminating a nova. But we do not have the full picture yet.
    Moreover, those 2 pandoras were protecting their comrades, which does not fit. But maybe it's to tell us they were in fact not efficient enough, precisely because they died protecting others... but in the end, they are warriors made to protect the population.

    Also, they seem to work in groups of 3 or 4, they know friendship, even the bullying ones. Or so they seem.
    It's just they are quite violent and fight for any reason.
    It might be an after effect of their transformation and growing power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    That anime is not silly enough to tell us that novas are Pandoras that lost control... or Pandoras that evolved with no limiter, or lost their limiter and had an energy boost or something like that...
    ...
    It's just they are quite violent and fight for any reason.
    It might be an after effect of their transformation and growing power.
    From my understanding, Novas are extra-dimensional beings. Period. They showed up first, and Pandoras were created later. If anything, I wouldn't be surprised if the stigma embedded in Pandoras backs are the remnants of a Nova core. That still doesn't explain how Limiters are able to copy the Freezing effect, but since Kazuya is the only person who can do so without baptism, the normal Limiters may also utilize a Pandora's stigma through that joining.

    I like to think their violent tendencies have more to do with the corruption caused by that gain in power rather than some physiological explanation.

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    The manga actually explains a lot more than the anime does. Go read it and you will get answers...well..some of em anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David75 View Post
    Suicide mission? and very self centered indivudals. Something's not right here.
    Since they are always jumping at any chance to be violent, I wouldn't put it past them. They likely would think that where others have died, they will survive...

    Quote Originally Posted by David
    Also, they seem to work in groups of 3 or 4, they know friendship, even the bullying ones. Or so they seem.
    It's just they are quite violent and fight for any reason.
    We know at least the weaker ones know true friendship. But are they even alive or capable of defeating the Novas after graduation? The stronger ones, based on what we have seen, seem more like bosses surrounded by sycophants or temporary allies brought together by a common, transient goal (like eliminating somebody who could pose a threat in the future). Unlike many shounen shows would have you believe, becoming evil doesn't make you a friend of another evil person. Of course we have also non-evil individuals who are simply otherwise troubled, self-absorbed - and violent.

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