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    It was very good, I wept manly tears. Now Madoka exists everywhere and nowhere, all at once.

    I don't think anything else needs to be said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    It was very good, I wept manly tears. Now Madoka exists everywhere and nowhere, all at once.
    Yeah, I rewatched that after my headache went away. I tend to only read the good bits when I rewatch anime too, and I enjoyed her talk with Homura a lot more this time.

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    I did like how they started off this show as a staple magical girl series, broke the mould, and have the final outcome being the standard mahou shoujo fight-to-save-the-world-with-a-critter-on-your-shoulder system once again - as if this series was "The Birth of Mahou Shoujo".
    Almost forgot that this show also started with Madoka saving a ferret-like animal, and ended with some ribbon-giving. Just like another magical girl anime I love.

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    I suppose I forgot about the parts with Madoka's mother and the girls' teacher. The way this series handled Madoka's mother was extremely well done. She wasn't a perfect mother, she wasn't a saintly goddess of goodwill, she was a mother. She lamented not being able to help as much as she could as her daughter grew up, just as their teacher lamented not always being able to help/save them.

    Madoka's mother came off very human, a rarity in anime. She did not let Madoka run off on her own easily, she didn't ignore everything going on, she even offered to help Madoka with her troubles. She was perceptive (about Sayaka, asking if Madoka was being tricked by something, and other things), she was caring, and she acted like a parent should. Guidance, advice, never controlling, but always available to listen when a misstep was made.

    If it wasn't for Kaname Junko, Madoka would never have had the smarts, selfless attitude, and resolve to make that wish. She raised a damn good kid, even if she no longer remembers her.

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    I forgot about Madoka's mother too. Now that I think about it, while she's not perfect she IS pretty superhuman. She works high up in management of a corporation, yet somehow uses her teeth-brushing and late-night-booze time to bond with Madoka enough that she sees her for counselling over her father's.

    Because of her "working mum" status though, I've never really felt that Madoka was "raised" by her throughout the majority of this series.

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    I was mind-blown by the two episodes. Madoka clearly gave a LOT of thought on her wish. She practically screwed Kyuubei and the Incubator's plan by modifying the rules. Leave it to the little critters to find another way to gather their energy... though thanks to Madoka the 'fallen' Mahou Shoujo / Puella Magi don't transform into a new enemy now.

    My eye twitched upon seeing Sayaka falling yet again in the end. Really... she's a lost cause. At least she seemed to 'remember' Madoka as she fell... if their chat at the violin-audition gives us a clue.

    Past Mahou Shoujo that Madoka saved... I recognize at least Cleopatra and Jean D'Arc.

    I do wonder though... how did Madoka's younger brother still partly remember her?

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    Lol, what the holy hell? Madoka just made herself a universal law, a fucking abstract universal constant! She's like time, space or gravity, a fact that will remain as long as the universe does too.

    I demand a second season or a light novel or a fucking videogame for the 3DS, SOMETHING!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    I demand a second season or a light novel or a fucking videogame for the 3DS, SOMETHING!
    There's always Madoka hope for the slice of life spinoff [Link is NSFW, sankaku].

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    Apparently there's already a manga spinoff

    Mahou Shoujo Kazumi Magica - The Innocent Malice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Lol, what the holy hell? Madoka just made herself a universal law, a fucking abstract universal constant! She's like time, space or gravity, a fact that will remain as long as the universe does too.

    I demand a second season or a light novel or a fucking videogame for the 3DS, SOMETHING!
    She becomes the Goddess of all Maho Shoujos.

    But in the end, she can't prevent them from dying after fighting too much.
    The only thing she accomplished is preventing them from becoming witches that will do evil when they were innocent girlies wanting to be good girlies. It was really too sad.
    I could add that all Mahou Shoujos we know were to be dead at some point, but incubator proposed the deal right before that. So you could think that it's normal they die at some point, since it's their fate after all.
    It's just that Sayaka does not seem to fit in that scheme, or was she to commit suicide at some point?

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    Madoka can grow tired of this state of being - just like Archer in FSN - imagine what would happen then. She still, theoretically, is Mahou Shoujo - if she would start to despair her soul gem would start to trun into grief seed - now there can be two outcomes to this:
    1) she won't be affected - because she transcended that state theoretically.
    2) she'll stop being Mahou Shoujo, and she'll destroy her soul gem and return to being normal girl...which would basically mean that no one will save any other Mahou Shoujo, they'll start turning into witches and the circle goes on... just imagine 'endless eight Madoka'.
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    Her wish was to stop any and every witch from becoming, if she were to give in to despair i don't see why her own rule wouldn't be applied for her as well

    The question that remains is if the rule would still be in place after her theoretical demise, did she become the rule or did she create it?

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    Madoka's wish already trascends time. If she were to fall... she herself would save herself. If 'she' were to dissappear... 'she' would still continue saving others as her wish, as Kyuubei said, trascends time and space. Quite the paradox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelbair View Post
    Madoka can grow tired of this state of being - just like Archer in FSN - imagine what would happen then. She still, theoretically, is Mahou Shoujo - if she would start to despair her soul gem would start to trun into grief seed - now there can be two outcomes to this:
    1) she won't be affected - because she transcended that state theoretically.
    2) she'll stop being Mahou Shoujo, and she'll destroy her soul gem and return to being normal girl...which would basically mean that no one will save any other Mahou Shoujo, they'll start turning into witches and the circle goes on... just imagine 'endless eight Madoka'.

    @ the above 3 posts: Madoka already HAS saved herself. That's what that giant death-star was. She transcended space-time and destroyed herself from becoming a witch, and by doing so ceased to be a mahou shoujo or an actual person and instead became a concept called hope.

    What I wanted to know is how Homura ended up being unable to age. Also is the setting where Homura talks with Kyuubei about the past the future of Madoka's world? (ie, the one where everyone's forgotten her etc?). Or another one?

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    I don't think Mahou Shoujos ever aged. They are technically dead with their souls stuffed inside a gem, after all.

    Also, it was Madoka's world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I don't think Mahou Shoujos ever aged. They are technically dead with their souls stuffed inside a gem, after all.
    Ah, I forgot about that part - which makes the look of relief on the girls who had their gems destroyed in the first arrow shootout a bit of a animation flaw.

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    It's not necessarily a flaw. Madoka is after all "saving" them in a way that transcends the previous universe's rules, so a slower transition to "death" (loss of control over the already dead body) is believable enough.

    Also, just letting them keep the sad expression they had as soon as the jewel vanishes will confuse viewers and make them think Madoka is simply killing them off, not giving them peace.
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    Now, a month later, I finally finished the show. Although technically just waiting for yesy already pushed the finish line farther for me.

    Quite an abstract ending, but then again, after the beginning it was diverting to that direction, and the graphics, especially the witch parts, suggested an ending like this was in store, ready and waiting. For some reason I didn't find this ending too sad, though. I guess I need more translucent sad scenes than most of what this offered. One thing I appreciated a lot about the ending is that the world still remained a bad place...

    A decent show all in all.

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    Three Madoka movies announced

    Link NSFW (SanCom)

    The only thing I could find on ANN was this.

    This is very exciting news, though if the planned release dates for each film are as spread apart as Rebuild, I will be a sad panda. Here's to hoping we get more of a bow-wielding Homura!

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    Inb4 remake.

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