I totally saw it coming though. I think, in this case, the cliché would have been the twist.Originally Posted by animus
I totally saw it coming though. I think, in this case, the cliché would have been the twist.
I didn't see the self-destruct though. Must each and every entity be rigged with a self-sacrificing attack?
Couldn't she hug the big fellow and drive a spear through them both or something?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Like they're not already getting enough heat for the gore as it is
Getting heat for gore is stupid. The only people who should be complaining are parents who dropped this show in their little girl's lap thinking it was another staple Mahou Shoujo.
Don't Japanese media have maturity warnings?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
The commercialize anime with tits and implied sex everywhere and have the gall to call it a shounen, what do you think?
Well no one's complaining about the tits are they? Maybe in Japan, tits are fine, but gore is not. That depends on their perception on what is mature content and what isn't. Whatever that value is, it should be reflected in the classification ratings.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
There can't be a value system of any society where tits are worse than little girls dying, surely!
The background story with alien civilizations and entropy sounded so weak that I'm more likely to believe it's an alien reality show and the entropy thing is just an excuse to be given to humans finding out too much. Unless the aliens are from a very distant future where the universe has already run out of matter and energy and they travel back in time in order to fix the negative development. In that case they could even be the decendants of humans themselves.
Whatever the case, I'm certainly looking forward to Madoka's wish. She's so passive that it's hard to believe she could come up with anything that could have even remote possibilities of tricking Kyubey, so if she manages to undo anything, it will be fool's luck.
So Kyubey=Nagato? (sentient entity and so on...)
God...
So basically, those aliens think they do not have enough Entropy and found a burst of it when they turn preteen girls from Majou shoujo to witch. Wicked idea, to say the least.
It's true that a world running out of entropy is a dead world, as it energy exchanges can't happen anymore. But that world is already dead, being in the utmost level of disorder it can achieve.
After that, I admitt I do not clearly see how you can regenerate levels of Entropy in the Universe. But I guess we need not discussing this.
Another point is time travel. It is said to be impossible as it goes against the second law of thermodynamics as it means decreasing the Entropy of a system without an increase elswhere. So Homura shouldn't be there, if the asumption she comes from the future is correct.
A strange show, where you can rely on nothing you see, believe or take for granted. I can not really say I enjoy it, rather I'm curious for what they have in store for us and that keeps me watching.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Someone's gonna learn to enjoy Madoka Box...
Yeah, yeah. I wasn't right, but I wasn't all that far off either. Madoka has thus far been destined to become a witch on the day Walpurgis appears...pretty much no matter the circumstances. I'll take the horrible horrible medicine all the same. It's not often a series gets me guessing wrong this often.
I suppose I should have also seen Homura's original personality coming. Characters that end up that cold are usually the result of repeated traumas. Quite amusing that in the present timeline, Homura and Madoka are practically opposites from when Homura first met Madoka. Madoka the hardened veteran, and Homura the shy, weepy introvert.
They mushed this all into a single episode, but I found it fascinating how many things stayed constants as Homura changed. Sayaka (when present) always fell into witchdom first, Kyouko always felt pity for Sayaka, Mami was filled with inevitable mistrust, and Madoka consistently put herself last.
Perhaps Madoka's ultimate, world-destroying witch form is a cruel reflection of her normal personality. She's so selfless all the time, that she becomes the ultimate being of selfishness.
Mami went nuts. I didn't expect her sense of justice to bend so much with just the revelation that they turn into witches. I thought her main issue was being alone? I liked it all the same though.
I pity Madoka because she isn't emo like the rest of them. She really is selfless and kind, but has the power to shoulder so much, and is forced to do so for the same reason. In a sense, Homura and Madoka are alike, only Madoka has innate strength (of character, will and actual magic), while Homura earned hers through repetition.
I hated Sayaka before, but I hate her even more now. This is mainly because we get to see the contrast between her selfishness compared to Homura's sacrifice in this episode.
Peace.
In Mami's defense, she (as far as we know) is consistently forced to use her wish to save herself from dying. Then she finds out that in doing so, she's enslaved herself into becoming something worse than simply dying, becoming a monster that kills others. That is a fate completely opposed to her sense of justice, helping others as much as possible, so they'd never have to experience a fate like her own.
I can't say I'm really surprised she'd crack.
Her loneliness may be a side effect of what Homura has been doing. Mami gets to be a puella magi for some time, but Madoka joins her...just because. Also fairly early on from what we can infer from this episode. Homura is keeping that from happening, which left Mami all by herself.
note: I loved the scene with Madoka hugging Homura and drumming her feet after Homura's debut battle. So cute~! That said, a peppy Madoka is a bit...weird. I'm so used to her being filled with doubt and being introspective.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Thu, 03-10-2011 at 09:24 PM. Reason: note and mami timeline details
I am not really belittling the impact the revelation can have on Mami, especially since her wish is probably the most pointless if you take things into consideration, but I just thought that with her allies she would be able to recover. Killing them off, well, came as a surprise from someone who hated being alone.
I loved that scene by the way. The way their eyes died and the body just fell limp was really cool and disturbing.
Peace.
One of my favourite parts (of the many many favourite parts) was where we now know Homura isn't just doing this because she wants to, but because Madoka wants her to. Overall it may be a minor point, but it really drives it home that she knows Madoka really will regret it and isn't just some imagined conclusion that Homura thought would be the best for them.
This show's one of the rare ones that keep me hooked with plot without the majority of my enjoyment stemming from a single character. My liking for the girls (characters) has also been constantly shifting, which also doesn't happen very often. I like Mami all the way to her death, then it was Kyoko until she went soft for Sayaka, followed by Homuro and now maybe even Madoka.
They didn't really imply it or anything, but to me this repeat would be the first one where Madoka has any recollection of previous timelines. It might not mean anything since she's passing it off as a dream though.
This "final method" can mean nothing other than killing Madoka.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Or sacrificing herself (Homura) to save Madoka. After all, one thing consistent with all the cycles is Homura's survival.
About your point on Madoka wanting to be saved, I don't think it's a minor point at all. Wanting to be saved and being selfishly "helped" by someone who thinks they know better are completely different things. Homura is just awesome. I hated her braided look though. Still it emphasizes her cool look now so all is well.
AND Thank God they finally brought attention to Homura's bad ass name. Definitely one of my favorite names ever. I realize that unique names are almost necessary for me to like a character (e.g. C.C., Senjougahara, Saber, Lafiel, and Homura). I now realize that most of those are fairly masculine or at least androgynous.
Peace.
God... if before this episode I loved this series... this episode has made it into one of my all time favorites. F-amazing episode. The portrayal of Homura's feelings hit hard... before now I was indifferent to her... now Im... wow...
My favorite scene was when they learnt about Sayaka's destiny and Mami killed Kyouko... only to be killed by Madoka. I never expected Madoka to kill Mami.
Just... wow...
True enough. I forgot about that. If she's not going to kill Madoka though, she'll still have to put her out of commission. Homura was prepared to die in her latest fights - Madoka keeps jumping in to stop her.
Completely different indeed. I meant "overall" in that in the current timeline it doesn't really matter since Madoka doesn't know about it and Homura's keeping it all to herself.About your point on Madoka wanting to be saved, I don't think it's a minor point at all. Wanting to be saved and being selfishly "helped" by someone who thinks they know better are completely different things.
Totally.Homura is just awesome. I hated her braided look though.
Shinta likes women with manly names. XDAND Thank God they finally brought attention to Homura's bad ass name. Definitely one of my favorite names ever. I realize that unique names are almost necessary for me to like a character (e.g. C.C., Senjougahara, Saber, Lafiel, and Homura). I now realize that most of those are fairly masculine or at least androgynous.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Maybe Shinta likes his girls to beat him?
Ejem... anyway...
So I was checking the updated opening with Kyoko and Homura at the tower alongside Madoka, Sayaka and Mami and saw something that has always been there and I never noticed...
What's with the black cat on Sayaka's lap? Anti-Kyubei?
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