Homura is from the future, so she knows when, why and how the Walpurgis night will start.
I'm betting the key is Madoka. Incubator stated multiple times Madoka as an incredible latent power, and in that ep he even stated she'd be God like. Since he also stated at the end of the ep that Magical girls are baby witches, that means he feels Madoka will be an incredibly powerful witch, devastating the town or worse... hence the Walpurgis night.
Now, I'm also willing to know who Homura is.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
Yes, as we all suspected, witches are Puella Magi gone bad. It's interesting, I've been re-watching the beginning of this series with my sister and at the beginning Kyubey says to them something to the effect of, "If Puella Magi are made from wishes, then witches are made from curses." Very cool to see that play out here where Sayaka effectively cursing herself sped up her transformation.
As for Homura, perhaps her wish was to control time. Offensive abilities as a Puella Magi seem to be separate, and randomly assigned to specific girls. Though as we saw in Sayaka's case, the type of wish granted also affects abilities. So perhaps Homura just wished to go back in time to before Kyubey contacted Madoka, and the time-manipulation abilities were a side-effect of the wish she made.
Very good speculation. I tend to agree.
Peace.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I wasn't going to suggest a paradox before between Madoka's wish and Kyubey's existence before this episode (I certainly thought about it, since "anything" they want is supposedly granted) but now that we know what we know about its kind, there is a possibility that it just might work.
Before, I assumed that Kyubey was a magical, singular entity. Now we've learned that it is only a part of a highly advanced alien race (which disappointed me to be honest). Their explanation didn't really matter, though I did smirk when it said that girls in adolescence have the highest potential energy once they lose themselves. They figured out a way to convert the hormone-driven emotions of distressed teen girls into energy...very clever.
Anyway, now that I know Kyubey isn't Mephistopheles, and likely isn't one of a kind, would it be possible for Madoka's wish to be, "I wish that you [Kyubey] never existed."? If it fulfilled her wish in order to achieve its ultimate goal of having her fall onto the path of becoming the strongest witch (yielding the highest energy), would Madoka be able to reverse the fortunes of all the girls she's met so far? Sayaka wouldn't be dead, Kyoko would be poor but somewhat happy. Mami might still be dead (assuming the accident wasn't caused by Kyubey) and it's also quite possible Homura would cease to exist as she currently does.
I could see Madoka tricking Kyubey into undoing itself out of its unrelenting greed for her. Would that kind of paradox even resolve itself? It might not even work, or would another of Kyubey's kind merely take up the banner?
What I really liked is how Madoka interpreted cold logic and lack of emotions as evil, and treated it as an enemy, despite her kind nature.
Peace.
Wasn't quite as good as "If you feel like dying for this universe, just call us."Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
I don't know what to think of Walpurgis Night now. It doesn't seem like it's KB turning into a monster.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
What if the super strong witch is Madoka from the future? Just a random thought.
Kyubey is easily my favorite character in this show, followed by Homura.
I love her name, voice, character type (reminds me a lot of Chikane from KannaMiko, the strong yuri vibes help), power, and design. This is surprising because despite all this I still like the cold logical avatar more. I don't see him as evil at all. Everything he says and does makes sense.
I hate Madoka right now, but she may turn that around if she becomes really bad ass after becoming a puella magi.
I actually like the entropy explanation. I think it's pretty original.
Peace.
Nothing showed that this episode than the train scene "You're kidding, right?"
Does it look like she's fucking kidding?
They're the two most logical beings in the show to date. Just like how Homura didn't lash out at KB when he one-upped her by sending Kyoko to her death. There's no point.Kyubey is easily my favorite character in this show, followed by Homura.
Kyoko was cool when she was nice, but not overly so. I couldn't like her as much when she went so far for Sayaka, though it's hard to say whether it's because of Sayaka rather than Kyoko herself.
To top it all off, the witch looked just like a big, ugly version of Sayaka.
Did this show just say the "Law of Conservation of Energy" is wrong in not one, but two ways? XD
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Madoka will probably become a mahou shoujo to help Homura defeat Walpurgis, and then turn into Walpurgis, herself, once she's stricken by some surge of negative emotions. It would be an ironic turn of events, but I can see Kyubey talking Madoka into doing it. She already lost Sayaka and Kyoko, so I can see her finally accepting the contract in order to save Homura. The timing for Walpurgis is all too perfect.
I thought we were under that assumption for a while now. If Walpurgis is supposed to be an unbelievably strong witch, one that even two puella magic will have difficulty beating, who else could it be? Homura knows everything about Walpurgis already, and knows too much about Madoka's fate.
Kyubey is quite adamant about making sure Madoka has no option to join him if she wants to save Homura, and then fall into despair afterward.
It also wouldn't be that Walpurgis will appear "here" in the city, it is probably more of a matter that Homura came through to the past there, and so will Walpurgis.
I'm not all that convinced that Walpurgis is dark Madoka. We've already seen it and its world doesn't seem Madoka related at all even though, as we've been shown in this week's episode, the world and weaponry used by the witch are related to the puella magi herself.
Here's another theory i'm throwing out there, what if Madoka's wish was to turn it all back to the way it was before? That would explain that dream sequence we experienced in the first episode, it would fit the troll of Madoka never actually becoming a mahou shoujo and it sounds just like something she would wish for. KB, being the analytical fucker that he is, wouldn't consider that a human would be stupid enough to wish herself into a endless eight out of her own will.
As for how Homura came to be... maybe from some other alternative timeline that was left to deal with Walpurgis? Maybe she would even be the one to tell her young self of the incubator conspiracy.
You know what? I was too.
Madoka has always been a sort of theatrical fantasy series, that explanation sounded too raw and rational for a show like this. It lacked the allegorical qualities I've grown used to love on this show.
Last edited by Archangel; Fri, 03-04-2011 at 05:00 PM. Reason: Aliens? Sounds like lazy writting >_>
Let me propose this then. How much do we really know about Madoka? We know she cares deeply for her friends, is willing to sacrifice herself for others at a moment's notice, loves her family and idolizes her mother...and that's about it. We don't know what her hobbies are, we don't know what inanimate things she treasures (Sayaka and music, Mami and tea, Kyoko and food), and we don't know what Madoka's weapon would be because she hasn't established a contract with Kyubey. So I think it is very difficult to say what Madoka's witch-space would even be like. Madoka is so selfless she may never think about herself for a single moment. They certainly haven't shown her to be that way so far. She couldn't even think about what she would wish for. If Mami hadn't died, she probably would have gone for just a simple cake. She was thinking of helping Mami first, what she would get out of it never even occurred to her.
Who is to say that Walpurgis from the series opening dream even has a space? Perhaps it is so deeply rooted in the world that surrounds it (like Madoka is) that the world is its space. Or at the least a very close reflection of it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
But we do know what weapon she uses ( would use ), the concept art of her puella persona has her wielding a bow
Concept art isn't a reliable source, but until she does make the contract, we can assume you're correct.
However, we only ever saw a silhouette of Walpurgis, the cogs on her backside, and her aura. It's not quite as obvious as Sayaka was.
EDIT:
I take that back. Knowing that Madoka's weapon might be a bow could very well prove that Madoka is Walpurgis Night. As Homura approaches Walpurgis, she is attacked by beam like projectiles that curve. Very likely magic arrows.
I'm actually wondering if Homura has done this more than once.
She could be just continuously going back in time, and failing every time, time-loop style. That would actually partly explain why she doesn't bother to tell them exactly what is going on.
I think you are imagining QB to be way more powerful than he actually is. You have to keep in mind that he is an alien and not a Godly entity. Using advanced technology to sure a boy's arm? Sure. Time looping an entire planet? I would think not considering they can't even deal with mere thermodynamics.
But Kyubey himself said that Madoka had unimaginable powers that could cause miracles that are beyond reason and by consequence have no logical limits. If it was Madoka's power that caused the loop, even if it was under Kyubey's guidance, it would be perfectly believable.
Peace.
Ok I guess you have a point, since MG's powers do according to QB fall outside normal reasoning. So anything can in theory be possible. But I do hold onto the hope that this wonderful series won't end with a deus ex machina ending.
I liked how the common cliche/trope of calling out someone back to reality because you're close with them didn't work and backfired horribly. That cliche usually works 99 times out of 100 in anime.
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