Game: Mass Effect 3

[Animeniax]

So are MP matches only vs computer? Are there free-for-all human vs human matches? I played four matches against computer waves of enemies, got my galactic readiness rating up to 64%. No my chances at winning the war at even.

[EpyonNext]

how does that help, it could happen 0,5 seconds later and the charge-up would be the reason why you missed the target
I haven't used it yet (neither SP nor MP) but a sniper-user with the same timing as you should be faster because of that.

The charge up has saved more shots than it's cost me by a long shot. It also gives me time to realign the shot to the victims head if needed.

Right now I'm playing a Quarian Infiltrator w/ the Javelin(Barrel and Ammo mods) and the M99-Saber(Barrel and stability mods). I use the Jav for the first few shots of the round then switch to the M99 as the enemy inevitably closes. If I have good positioning on the map I can usually crank out 1-3 salvos of double head shots before going to the M99.

Overall it's a trade off of what you want when it comes to the Jav, widow, and black widow.

The Jav plays better to my strengths and that's why I use it.

Edit: Well jav lost 50% of it's ammo today....but it got a 30% damage buff...WOOWOO.

[Raven]

Question regarding co-op:

I'm currently just about to finish ME1, bringing my save into ME2, eventually bringing that into ME3. That's the idea, right?

Anyway, I've bought ME3 now at a decent price so I can play co-op with friends in the meantime. I hope to take advantage of the benefits that playing co-op will give to you in ME3's single player. However obviously until I finish ME2 and import my save, I won't have an ME3 SP game to benefit at all.

So my question is, how does it work? Should I simply create a SP file in M3E despite not being up to it yet, play co-op for the benefits, and later on import my ME2 file when it's ready? Or is the only time I can import an ME2 file when I initially create an ME3 game, and thus all this time I'll be playing ME3's co-op on an empty SP file?

There appears to be no documentation on this from what I can see.

[KrayZ33]

the co-op will benefit all your future SP campaigns in ME3 (and the ones you've already created)

you don't have to create a SP character first.
I played Co-op first for the 100% rating myself before I started SP

[Raven]

Thanks. I can see how it works now, actually loading the game after installing it *facepalm* although apparently your efforts deteriorate over time. I'd better hurry up then.

[Animeniax]

Thanks. I can see how it works now, actually loading the game after installing it *facepalm* although apparently your efforts deteriorate over time. I'd better hurry up then.

Is that what's happening? I get my galaxy readiness rating to 100%, then the next day when I log in, it's dropped a few points.

MP is fun, but I've been in some games where people don't work together, don't revive teammates, and just spend all their time getting all the kills.

[TwisT]

Yea the readiness drops 3(or 6, don't remember) % per day between 100%-80%. Once under 80% it drops 1 % per day. But the readiness don't matter until the final attack on earth. So once you have done everything and is about to attack earth just go play MP to 100% and then go attack earth with a readiness of 100%.

If you play on bronze it's quite common that people don't work together if you have someone that is lvl14 or higher because if they specced their class right they can basically solo the entire game on bronze lvl so they don't care about what others do. Cerberus is the only threat on bronze with phantoms that nullify biotics, have crazy range damage and lethal 1shot melee. Other then that there is nothing to worry about. On silver you sometimes run to revive someone in a bad position but on gold it's just stupidity that makes someone die away from the team in the first place. If you die next to your team and they still don't revive, no matter the difficuly they are just assholes.

[Animeniax]

Still enjoying ME3 MP, but finding more people who won't bother reviving teammates. A couple games ago these two kids wouldn't revive me but when one of them was hurt the other complained on voice chat that I should revive him. After the match they voted to kick me. Dumbasses.

I don't like the 20 level limit but I guess the point of MP is to master fighting strategies, not build a character. But with 20 levels you can only max out 4 of the 5 powers.

[darkshadow]

That's the point.

[Animeniax]

It couldn't be both? Short-sighted.

[darkshadow]

Both what?
The point of the level 20 limit is so that different people have different builds of characters that aren't godly by themselves and rely on teamwork.
It's fucking called "co-op" for a reason, 1 person wins, every person wins; XP and money is completely shared, if you can't understand the "co-op" aspect of the co-op MP then you are just a fucking dumbass and you should just go back to playing mindless matches of COD instead.

You can either go 6/6/6/6/0 or 6/6/6/5/3, deal with it.

[Animeniax]

Both what?
The point of the level 20 limit is so that different people have different builds of characters that aren't godly by themselves and rely on teamwork.
It's fucking called "co-op" for a reason, 1 person wins, every person wins; XP and money is completely shared, if you can't understand the "co-op" aspect of the co-op MP then you are just a fucking dumbass and you should just go back to playing mindless matches of COD instead.

You can either go 6/6/6/6/0 or 6/6/6/5/3, deal with it.

Try some xanax, then some viagra. Wow you must hate life. Every little thing just sets you off on a tirade. If you don't want to answer the question, then don't. As is, your little rant just makes me think it's an even dumber system than I previously thought. Co-op MP isn't one thing for all people and all types of players. Sorry your world has to be so confined and exact or you get all bent out of shape. Some of us want other options in life and in a video game. They could easily make scenarios that are tougher for higher level characters. Guess what, that would still require some teamwork. Instead there's a shitty level cap so you have to play another class that isn't your style. It's not like teamwork is important in the SP. So you're whole point that MP is to teach kids how to work together is bullshit. GARSH!

[darkshadow]

It's hilarious how fucking retarded you are.

Try some xanax, then some viagra.

If you are trying to tell me to calm down then don't, my bloodpressure is 120/70 i.e. perfect.

Wow you must hate life. Every little thing just sets you off on a tirade.

No not really, I just hate the abysmal quality of your shitposts, and I'm not the only one.

Co-op MP isn't one thing for all people and all types of players.

Actually yes, yes it is; you are cooperating with multiple players for a common goal, I'm truly baffled by how the words "Co-op MP" can mean something entirely different for you.

Some of us want other options in life and in a video game.

Then go play a different game.

They could easily make scenarios that are tougher for higher level characters. Guess what, that would still require some teamwork.

Guess what, that's exactly what the silver and gold difficulties are for, most level 20 characters can easily solo a game in bronze (stop playing bronze idiot), and bronze is exactly the "scenario" for players to learn how the game plays.
So if you don't want teamwork stick with bronze and don't suck, if you actually want to play the game like it's supposed to, up the difficulty.

Instead there's a shitty level cap so you have to play another class that isn't your style.

Lol, every class is completely viable in it's own way chump, learn2play.

It's not like teamwork is important in the SP. So you're whole point that MP is to teach kids how to work together is bullshit. GARSH!

Your*
I never said anything about teaching anyone anythng.
SMH...SP is SP and MP is MP, but I have to say, you trying to compare the godlike one man vs the galaxy character in SP to nameless special forces who die all the time in said SP is quite hilarious indeed

[Animeniax]

It's hilarious how fucking retarded you are.

If you are trying to tell me to calm down then don't, my bloodpressure is 120/70 i.e. perfect.

No not really, I just hate the abysmal quality of your shitposts, and I'm not the only one.

Actually yes, yes it is; you are cooperating with multiple players for a common goal, I'm truly baffled by how the words "Co-op MP" can mean something entirely different for you.

Guess what, that's exactly what the silver and gold difficulties are for, most level 20 characters can easily solo a game in bronze (stop playing bronze idiot), and bronze is exactly the "scenario" for players to learn how the game plays.
So if you don't want teamwork stick with bronze and don't suck, if you actually want to play the game like it's supposed to, up the difficulty.
Lol, every class is completely viable in it's own way chump, learn2play.

Your*
I never said anything about teaching anyone anythng.
SMH...SP is SP and MP is MP, but I have to say, you trying to compare the godlike one man vs the galaxy character in SP to nameless special forces is quite hilarious indeed

Basically any post that doesn't agree with your microscopic worldview is a shitpost. But people think your posts are shit too, and unnecessarily assholish too boot. Think about your life and how good it is or isn't, then wonder why it sucks if you're right all the time and about everything. Of course you won't, so let's get back to the game.

Co-op MP doesn't mean each person has to be an exact complement to the other members of his team in order for them to be successful. Different methods work, even if two guys are rambos and the other two are sticks in the mud like you. You can win with 4 sentinels but you can also win with 4 vanguard characters. The goal may be common, but the methods to achieve those goals is different for each player. I'll often run off on my own, effectively drawing away several enemy units while teammates finish the objective. Or we can all sit at the objective and get rushed by the swarms of enemies. There are lots of ways to play, try some besides your usual safe plays.

Of course you think all the character types are equally viable but that's not the point. When you created your Shepard character, you're forced to pick a class that makes the character your own. But in MP you have to try other classes even if you don't care to because they aren't the type of fighter you'd be. It'd be like asking campwhore snipers to try playing assault or medic in CoD or BF.

Nice work pointing out the one grammatical error in my previous post. Your English ain't bad for a foreigner.

[darkshadow]

Basically any post that doesn't agree with your microscopic worldview is a shitpost. But people think your posts are shit too, and unnecessarily assholish too boot.

No not really, just your posts.
And yes I'm an asshole, I knew that already.

Think about your life and how good it is or isn't

My life is quite awesome, but thanks once again for assuming it isn't

Co-op MP doesn't mean each person has to be an exact complement to the other members of his team in order for them to be successful.

Reading comprehension failure

The point of the level 20 limit is so that different people have different builds of characters that aren't godly by themselves and rely on teamwork.

I never said anything about people being exact complements anywhere, please don't put words in my mouth (again).

Different methods work, even if two guys are rambos and the other two are sticks in the mud like you.

I'm a stick in the mud? Aww, and here I thought I was carrying teams filled with idiots like you...silly me

You can win with 4 sentinels but you can also win with 4 vanguard characters. The goal may be common, but the methods to achieve those goals is different for each player. I'll often run off on my own, effectively drawing away several enemy units while teammates finish the objective. Or we can all sit at the objective and get rushed by the swarms of enemies. There are lots of ways to play, try some besides your usual safe plays.

I don't recall ever saying anything that contested this, but thanks for the lesson.

Of course you think all the character types are equally viable but that's not the point. When you created your Shepard character, you're forced to pick a class that makes the character your own. But in MP you have to try other classes even if you don't care to because they aren't the type of fighter you'd be.

Uhm, what? There is no reason for you to play any class other than the one you want to play.
My soldier got to level 8 only because I kept unlocking XP in the spectre packs for it, meanwhile all my other classes were level 20; I only started playing soldier when I unlocked the Batarian.
So who is forcing you to play what class again?

Nice work pointing out the one grammatical error in my previous post. Your English ain't bad for a foreigner.

Haha I sincerely hope you don't think the internet is a nation that belongs to the US, otherwise I might just have to take offense by your use of the word "foreigner" ;D.

[Animeniax]

Yeah my posts are the only ones you get all whiny and angsty over.

You can't even max out the stats on any of the MP character classes. Why not allow that at the least? And MP in any game works fine with higher level characters... just increase the power or number of enemies, same as in any MP game. CoD allows multiple prestiges and leveling up to 80.

Once your class hits 20 in ME3, you can maybe play the female or other race (once you unlock it by buying packs). Otherwise you're forced to play another class if you want the exp to be worth anything.

And talk about reading comp fail. You corrected me on an English grammar mistake, hence my comment about you being a foreigner with good English. Dumb foreigner.

[darkshadow]

Yeah my posts are the only ones you get all whiny and angsty over.

I don't get "whiny and angsty" about anything, don't let my foul mouth fool you; I just don't give a fuck ;D.

You can't even max out the stats on any of the MP character classes. Why not allow that at the least? And MP in any game works fine with higher level characters... just increase the power or number of enemies, same as in any MP game. CoD allows multiple prestiges and leveling up to 80.

Wow just wow....:godzillafacepalm:
How you managed to miss this is beyond me:

Guess what, that's exactly what the silver and gold difficulties are for, most level 20 characters can easily solo a game in bronze (stop playing bronze idiot), and bronze is exactly the "scenario" for players to learn how the game plays.
So if you don't want teamwork stick with bronze and don't suck, if you actually want to play the game like it's supposed to, up the difficulty.

If you want to prestige so badly, you-can-also-actually-do-that-in-this-game-but-you-clearly-havent-bothered-learning-anything-about-the-mp......it's called promote

Once your class hits 20 in ME3, you can maybe play the female or other race (once you unlock it by buying packs). Otherwise you're forced to play another class if you want the exp to be worth anything.

if you care so much about XP in this game then you are once again completely missing the point of how the game is supposed to be played...(*hint* it has something to do with money).

And talk about reading comp fail. You corrected me on an English grammar mistake, hence my comment about you being a foreigner with good English. Dumb foreigner.

Wow just wow again, I really hope you are trolling, otherwise you are without a doubt the biggest retard on the forum.

[Ryllharu]

I think it's pretty obvious why Ani isn't getting revived during matches.

Unless you are an infiltrator, running off in the other direction to "draw fire" while your teammates complete the objective is stupid. Like, really stupid. You ever notice that little ticker doling out xp every second while you all sit on the hacking areas? It increases substantially when all four are there compared to just three. As for the other objectives, the whole team had better be hunting the VIPs or you will fail (together on higher difficulties because it's always Banshees or equivalent), and there's no difference in the third type, but you can complete the objectives too instead of running around killing enemies, since the XP on the 4 individual hacks are also substantial.

On bronze, you shouldn't even get killed once if you're level 12 or above. It's called playing as a team.

If the rest of the team sucks, quit once the match is over and find someone else. Otherwise play Silver. If the team doesn't work together, you'll all be dead by round 4, so you can find a new team faster.

You can't max out the abilities because you are meant to compliment each other. Hell, I barely use two of the button-mapped abilities the majority of the matches.

Oh, and what's the highest reward each match can offer? Full Extraction. Stop running off and pretending you should solo, and you might get revived more often. Or play Bronze solo and save a spot on the good teams for the rest of us.

[TwisT]

Lol you bicker like an old married couple. That hate and wanna kill each other that is. I feel like the level20 cap is good. It gives more options on building your characters. Lets take the Asari adept as an example. If you could max her out then the only option you would have is what weapon to use. But with the level 20 cap you get at least 5 builds that is strong. The glass cannon build 6/6/6/5/3, which can be played in two different ways. Either with a sniper/heavy weapon for accurate and high powered shots to use with Stasis field, or a heavy pistol for low cooldown. Then you have the 6/6/0/6/6 which gives you Stasis and warp combo that can get of Biotic Explotions on weaker enemys that can be trapped and crowd control and warp against the bigger once. This once can also be played with either a heavy weapon for 1hit headshots in stasis or a light weapon for fast cooldown. Then you have my favorite, the 0/6/6/6/6, with an Heavy Pistol for continuous Biotic Explosions spam that will melt the stronger ones.

Some classes i feel are more limited to begin with like the Sentinel. If you're not gonna pick Tech Armor why go with Sentinel at all. I have seen some Human Sentinels that go warp and throw. I guess it's for those that hasn't unlocked the Asari Adept but if you have every class that just isn't a viable spec in my opinion. So IMO this is limited to 2 different speccs. Either the 6/6/6/5/3 which i don't think is a good match because the Sentinel is a tank with his armor and the 6 points in HP-passive skill is needed to make him truly awesome. The other one being the 6/6or0/0or6/6/6. The Sentinel should always have a heavy weapon like Saber because he has a long cooldown to begin with because of his armor so even with a light weapon you can't depend on power damage to be your main damage.

I agree with most of what Ryll says but as for the hacking objective i find it much more safe to have only 2 standing in the zone and 2 taking up other positions outside (prefer Infiltrators and Adepts for this) clearing paths so the ones hacking only get enemys from one path. And if the get over run at the hacking zone the can retreat out to the safe path covered but the other 2. And then they can all 4 go in and clear the zone again. Team work baby

[KrayZ33]

MP bores me to death by now, I'm not touching it again until they add new modes.
the credit-eating-store doesn't help either
probably *lost* over a million credits by now. Didn't get the new character-package either
not to mention the "unlock reset"-bug which was going around during the early days when you tried to purchase stuff while being marked "ready".


the funny thing is, you probably have the most fun whenever you play bronze with 1 or max. 2 friend
as it is the only difficulty where you are able to move around freely without hugging cover 24/7.
the last 10 gold matches I had were nothing but sniping for heads from cover, over and over again.

the soldier class, which is one of the most fun to play, is (compared to others) just weak and useless (assault rifles are outclassed by heavy pistoles, shotguns and widows)
its a real shame and outrageous that Soldiers arn't even able to skill disruptor/piercing ammo or something like that.