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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmanj View Post
    I just thought of that. Naruto could basically pump sage chakra into all those zombies, and that would be a solution to their problems. On the other hand, I don't know how he could flow his energy into anyone without them absorbing it.
    Supposedly, that is exactly how genjutsu work. You "pump" chakra into their brain/nervous system and take control of it by swamping their chakra out. If the victim has enough chakra, he can mold a bunch and override the override. In fact, that is why Killer Bee was immune to Sasuke's Sharingan. He explained that a jinchuuriki who can control his bijuu is pretty much immune to genjutsu, because they can call on a huge amount of chakra to override the genjutsu's effects.

    Naruto supposedly sucks at genjutsu (and we've never seen him train for it), but he has a couple of techniques that let him manipulate chakra outside of his body, and he really wouldn't need to control a guy's brain -- he'd just have to pump in natural energy.

    Also, we can possibly compare this idea to Gedo Mazo's "Instant Kill Ghost" attack from when Pein was fighting Salamander Hanso. Weird "ghost" tentacles came out of the statue and instantly killed anyone they touched. That's unlike anything else we've seen, except for genjutsu (in the way I described above). Maybe that was a "chakra pumping" move that messed up people's nervous systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville View Post
    Supposedly, that is exactly how genjutsu work. You "pump" chakra into their brain/nervous system and take control of it by swamping their chakra out. If the victim has enough chakra, he can mold a bunch and override the override. In fact, that is why Killer Bee was immune to Sasuke's Sharingan. He explained that a jinchuuriki who can control his bijuu is pretty much immune to genjutsu, because they can call on a huge amount of chakra to override the genjutsu's effects.
    No, the way to counter genjutsu if you succumb to it is to have another person inject chakra into you. That's what Chiyo explained as a tactic to use against genjutsu users. The reason Killer Bee was immune is because his Bijuu is always present to wake him from genjutsu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    No, the way to counter genjutsu if you succumb to it is to have another person inject chakra into you. That's what Chiyo explained as a tactic to use against genjutsu users. The reason Killer Bee was immune is because his Bijuu is always present to wake him from genjutsu.
    It doesn't have references, but the Naruto Wikia says:

    The first option is for the ninja to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Release (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person. In addition, tailed beasts can break their jinchūriki out of genjutsu in a similar fashion, as seen in Killer Bee's case.
    I guess KB's passive defense is better than an active one, but he can still use the active one. In other words, he can try to override the genjutsu himself, but the bijuu is trained to do it for him if he fails.
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    If you're talking about a genjutsu on the level of sharingan, then it seems the only way to compete with it in a one on one is to have a matching level of sharingan. (Or, in Deidara's case, train your eye? Still don't get it.) Even Kyubi can be controlled by sharingan, so clearly no amount of pure chakra can counter it.

    I still think the reason Killer Bee couldn't be controlled was because his bijuu was not exposed to Sasuke's sharingan in the first place, and therefore was able inject chakra into Bee when he fell into it.
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