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    Kishimonto... he does not like characters dying.

    Kabutoro saying that he has problems controlling all the zombies, the zombies are still aware of the situation (and have their own opinions)
    so, if something was to happen to Kabutoro, would the zombies be free? or would they insta-die?
    same thing, Kabutoro can just be in a orochimaru-cycle of coma-resurrection, and then everyone will be alive!

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    Actually with so many under Kabuto, I think it could be possible for those of extremely strong will be able to break the control. Or at the very least, when he "unleashes" them, they might fall back to their own accords and that they will attack their old enemies and leave their allies alone.

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    maybe that is part of Kabutoro's plan?
    I think it's pretty reckless of him to throw into a battle such a giant force if he suspects there's a chance that it'll backfire on him.

    You'd think that for the first time, he'll only release a small force, so if they rebel, they'd still be no threat. but if he's willing to allow an army worth of ninjas on the battlefield, he's probably damn sure of his ability to control them.

    now, I'm willing to believe that Orochimaru is arrogant enough to do this, but after combining with Kabuto, and after dying (twice) from messing with the wrong experiment, I don't think Kabutoro is that self confident.

    I wouldn't put it past Kabutoro that he's planning on his zombie army to rebel and destroy the Zetsu army. then he'd be able to take the super sharingan from madare, or something.

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    Yeah, I have a suspicion that Kabuto will try to betray Madara soon. I think we will find out next chapter: either he'll fight Anko seriously, or he'll try to negotiate with her. It seems kind of dumb for Kabuto to leave a trail just to turn around and kill off a small group, when Madara controls an army of 100,000. Also, he barely tried to capture Naruto, and captured Yamato instead. Madara is supposedly weak to Tree no Jutsu.

    On a different note, I think Naruto's new move is pretty sweet. It is basically a Sage Mode version of Susanoo. Naruto is getting stronger by growing, unlike Sasuke, who just abuses himself for power.

    Also, how flipping strong is Naruto now? He was already godly strong with "just" Sage Mode, which makes chakra more potent and regenerate faster. Now he has a tank of Kyuubi chakra too. I guess Kishi has always made a point of Naruto's weakness being his chakra control, and mastering Sage Mode has made him a chakra control master apparently. Especially since he can move it around like a set of limbs.
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    So Madara could kill Sasuke, take his eyes, bring him back to life and then they'd both have MSs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    So Madara could kill Sasuke, take his eyes, bring him back to life and then they'd both have MSs?
    Both of them already have MS's, so what would the point of doing all that be?

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    Both of them already have MS's, so what would the point of doing all that be?
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    as i understand it Edo tensei involves binding the soul of the one you want to resurrect to a sacrificial body.
    this is why Third and Fourth Hokage cannot be resurrected via Edo Tensei - their souls were given as payment in the Death God Sealing technique used to bind part of the kyubi's chakra and Orochimarus arms respectively (something about being slowly digested in the bowls of the Shinigami for 1k years, if i recall correctly).
    arguably, it is the soul that gives the unique abilities as demonstrated by Orochimaru's resurrections of the 1st and 2nd hokage.
    And even the if the Jinchuriki do not have access to their Bijuu - it is quit possible that they will have large Chakra reserves and stamina much like Naruto, as well as their own unique abilities tied to their home villages. The Jinchuriki were born to be weapons. they would have received training for that, I am quite looking forward to seeing the jinchuriki in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anime nomad View Post
    this is why Third and Fourth Hokage cannot be resurrected via Edo Tensei - their souls were given as payment in the Death God Sealing technique used to bind part of the kyubi's chakra and Orochimarus arms respectively (something about being slowly digested in the bowls of the Shinigami for 1k years, if i recall correctly).
    Except Orochimaru was going to summon the fourth but was stopped during the act by Sarutobi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    So Madara could kill Sasuke, take his eyes, bring him back to life and then they'd both have MSs?
    Well... yeah, the only way for edo tensei to be remotelly fair is if there`s some sort of huge hidden weakpoint somewhere.
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    This is gonna be hard for kabuto to control those people with lots of uniques skills. Because even sasori who is expert in controlling people having a hard time by controlling so many puppet when fought sakura and chiyo.

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    Just a thought, as Edo Tensei isn't a bloodline limit, shouldn't Madara be able to just copy it when he see's Kabutoro pulling out all these zombies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DB_Hunter View Post
    Just a thought, as Edo Tensei isn't a bloodline limit, shouldn't Madara be able to just copy it when he see's Kabutoro pulling out all these zombies?
    The Sharingan`s copying ability is a long forgotten one, and i honestly doubt we`ll see it ever again... EVER.
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    Copying ability has always been gibberish to begin with. Seeing an Rasenshuriken with a Sharingan doesn't mean one processes the right element or chakra control to make one let alone a high level summon like Edo Tensai.

    I'm fine with the war as long as the talking ostrich and boxing kangaroo aren't joining in... Second thought, throw them in, I could use the lulz.

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    I was under the impression you don`t actually need to have the right elemen afinity, thus why we`ve seen kakashi use at least 4 elements.
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    I remember kakashi doing a rasengan effortlessly but he said that doing the rasengan along with adding "an" elemental affinity was extremely difficult. So there COULD in theory be 4 other forms of the completed rasengan. Flame, water, lightening, and earth rasengans would probably be really cool.

    Anyways I think the zombie battles will be pretty great. I can't wait to see salamander fight. I could care less about the previous hokage and the fallen akatsuki.

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    Well the whole copy thingy has also been explained as not being able to copy Bloodline Limits, such as Haku's, because they use 2 combined elements. If the copy ability could just bypass elemental affinity then Bloodlines such as Ice and Tree/Life would not be a problem to copy.

    BTW what elements have we seen Kakashi use? Lightning and Water, but i can't really remember anything else. The hiding in the earth could easily be explained as a regular jutsu not requiring a element. I can't really remember anything else except that. But then again i have the memory of a goldfish so please enlighten me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwisT View Post
    Well the whole copy thingy has also been explained as not being able to copy Bloodline Limits, such as Haku's, because they use 2 combined elements. If the copy ability could just bypass elemental affinity then Bloodlines such as Ice and Tree/Life would not be a problem to copy.

    BTW what elements have we seen Kakashi use? Lightning and Water, but i can't really remember anything else. The hiding in the earth could easily be explained as a regular jutsu not requiring a element. I can't really remember anything else except that. But then again i have the memory of a goldfish so please enlighten me.
    The technique where he rooted Kakashi and the one where he attacks pain from underground, if i recall correctly he called them Douton something, i *think* he used Fire ball against Naruto and Sakura, also, he uses all 5 elements in the Ultimate Ninja series, apparentelly, the abilities used there are Canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    The technique where he rooted Kakashi and the one where he attacks pain from underground, if i recall correctly he called them Douton something, i *think* he used Fire ball against Naruto and Sakura, also, he uses all 5 elements in the Ultimate Ninja series, apparentelly, the abilities used there are Canon.

    Quick quote from Narutowiki.
    Yep, in fact all the elements he used so far were pretty high level stuff, like not just fire ball, but grand fireball.
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    And just let us top all that of with This ;P

    And I don't know if Naruto filler goes into canon, but wasn't there this girl named Fuuka that used all elements too?
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    Kakashi said that most of Jounin can use more than one element. But basically, they can't use more than one at the same time without a blood line limit.

    A blood line limit lets you combine chakras. The ability to combine chakras can't be copied, even though Kakashi can see what kinds of chakra are being used and how. It's kind of like Sasuke and Rock Lee way back when. Sasuke could see Lee, but his body couldn't react.

    On the other hand, I guess that Pein could copy pretty much any jutsu, since he already had the ability to combine any pair of chakras.
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