Oreimo

[MFauli]

new ep is out

wat
was
that
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Putting aside that I want Kirino to die the most gruesome death (always blaming and punishing onichan for mere accidents. fuck off, bitch): Forced drama much? First, we´re supposed to cheer for rich, arrogant, white chick to beat the small, black kid that actually devotes its whole life on running. ooookay. and then ... kyousuke has a mental breakdown. or so. lol. "Im not a lolicon. im a siscon!" out of nowhere. As if the rest of the episode had shown Kirino in deep depression from not winning against Ria.

Oh god, all of this is so stupid, and Kirino´s ending demand tops it off nicely. Now I hope the anime really goes the incest route, just for maximum drama ... and hilarity.

PS: One scene actually had me uncomfortable. When Ria was lying on top of Kirino, and Kirino, while ranting about Kyouske, enjoying that greatly. Yeah, um, the only potential danger and predator here was Kirino. But since we´re liiving in a world where girls/women cannot possibly commit rape, that´s fine ... huh?

[MFauli]

New ep is there.

Okay, question time: How likely is it for a popular anime like Oreimo to take the incest route for reals? Damn, those two want each other so badly >_<

[shinta|hikari]

The two aren't blood related, so I believe the "incest" route is the most probable conclusion.

Kirino was really brocon this episode. That slap reminded me why this is probably the only anime in which I do not support the incest route.






That, and DAT SHIRONEKO. Wakipettankonobradiesfrombloodloss.

[MFauli]

The two aren't blood related

wait, i have absolutely zero recollection of that. Was that revealed during season 1? If so, yeah, the incest-route seems legit. Even though it´s not even real incest anymore. LAME!!!1

[Kraco]

That, and DAT SHIRONEKO. Wakipettankonobradiesfrombloodloss.

Kirino needs to get hit by a truck. Her funeral would make a fine scene (because she wouldn't utter a single word anymore). Then it ought to be Kuroneko happily ever after. Shironeko during the wedding of course.

[shinta|hikari]

@Mfauli - It hasn't? Maybe I just imagined it.

[MFauli]

@Mfauli - It hasn't? Maybe I just imagined it.

Well, I think I´d remember such significant information, lol. Wouldn´t it change the entire dynamic between the two if they knew they weren´t blood-related? Maybe you thought of Sword Art Online?

[shinta|hikari]

I can just see it happening. There will probably be a reveal that one of them is adopted or something. They obviously love each other, and Koi Kaze is quite rare, if not singular.

Kirino looks nothing like her parents.

[MFauli]

wow, its not Kyousuke making Kirino into a better person, it´s Kirino making Kyousuke into an asshole, too.

Kuroneko confessing to him, HIM turning her down (kinda), because he had thoughts about his sister. Then him agreeing to date her, as if he was being generous.

Also, just how openly are both Kyo and Kirino talking about their incestual love? Or everyone, at this point? They´ve all become so self-aware of the brother-sister-loving that it feels as if it´s only a matter of time now before one of them goes "oh well, we´re not serious, so why not kiss each other just for fun. lol, gonna be so awkward, amirite!!1". ugh


I swear to god, if somehow Kyousuke fucks up dating Kuroneko, he deserves to rot in hell. Also, I hope Kirino dies. But that´s not really related to this episde :>

[Ryllharu]

You don't have to worry about Kyousuke screwing it up. As evidenced by this episode, he's too stupid and too honest to ruin it, and while they still might be in the "honeymoon" period of their relationship, they've been moving in this direction since the first time she called him "onii-san" to piss Kirino off. It is definitely more than infatuation between the two of them.

Once Kirino finds out though, she's going to lose her marbles and deliberately try to sabotage their relationship. Probably at least one of the other girls too (maybe Ayase?). That little bitch can't allow her brother to be happy unless she's the focus of his attention. Kirino will probably try by making him more miserable at home, or using her friendship with Kuroneko as some kind of threat. I know it will never happen, but I hope that anything Kirino does backfires driving Kuroneko and Kyousuke closer together. Kirino would get miserable sitting in her room while Kyousuke and Kuroneko are together.

Or maybe, just maybe, their parents will approve of Kyousuke and Kuroneko instead of ignoring him 100% of the time in favor of Kirino. No wonder he's such a loser, cats get treated better than Kyousuke does at home.

edit:
If not Ayase, it might even be Manami. They're connected anyway.

Something about the way she said what she did this episode struck me as odd. She was telling him to think about it carefully, but the undertone was more like, think about it to the point where you don't act. She's already worked against him by "advising" Ayase on a seemingly regular basis. She presents herself as a person who will always be there for him, but there is distinctly something off about the way she says it lately.

She seemed genuine last season, now she doesn't. Maybe it is just me approving of Kuroneko more.

Saori, Kuroneko, and Sena (the BL pervert) are the legitimately good natured people, despite their quirks. Saori is probably the most saintly. Everyone else (including Kyousuke) are rotten to the core.

[MFauli]

You know, in a way, Kyousuke´s development reminds me of Makoto´s from School Days. He starts out as an innocent blank sheet, and as time goes on, he´s corrupted by all the shitty people around him. Because I definitely wouldn´t agree with Kyousuke being rotten to the core in the beginning of the series.

Now, however, he´s an incest-freak, yeah (as is his father, lol).

[Ryllharu]

I only included Kyousuke because of the garbage he said last episode, and taunting Kirino with the sticker on his phone this one. He hadn't been nearly so screwed up before that.

It is my hope that now that he's dating Kuroneko, that corruption will become substantially diminished.

[shinta|hikari]

I can almost see Kyousuke in the future bowing down on the ground before Ruri asking her to break up with him because he cannot get over his love for his little sister.

That is probably the ending I would hate the most, but all my instincts are telling me it will happen.

The biggest clue is the fucking look on Kyousuke's face when Ruri confessed, despite how awesome the confession was.

[Kraco]

I can almost see Kyousuke in the future bowing down on the ground before Ruri asking her to break up with him because he cannot get over his love for his little sister.

That is probably the ending I would hate the most, but all my instincts are telling me it will happen.

The biggest clue is the fucking look on Kyousuke's face when Ruri confessed, despite how awesome the confession was.

This is what I'm expecting as well. Kirino is the girl in Kyousuke's thoughts 80% of time, the rest of the girls fighting for the remaining 20%. Now that he's official with Kuroneko, it might be reduced to 60% of Kirino and 39% Kuroneko. Because even Kyousuke is a dude, after all, and he might be waiting for the very potential chance of kissing and touching Kuroneko whereas he's only dreaming of doing that with Kirino, but it still won't change the fact Kirino will be the most important girl for the freak. As long as that remains the truth, it would be a huge burden for any girlfriend, and I doubt they would really be able to stand it. In fact he likely wouldn't be able to stand it himself. I don't think he's rotten enough to live as a cheater indefinitely.

It's going to be a shitty ending, but, honestly, who wouldn't expect a shitty ending for a show about a creepy siscon?

[MFauli]

It´s a show about a creepy brocon, who turns her brother into a siscon. Have to defend Kyousuke here.

[Kraco]

It´s a show about a creepy brocon, who turns her brother into a siscon. Have to defend Kyousuke here.

No way. Kirino has been treating Kyousuke like a piece of shit ever since the beginning, with exceedingly few scenes where she actually expressed any gratitude for all the stuff he has been doing to serve her stupid whims, in addition to accepting blame in her stead. No sane person would be pleased by that, not even a hard M. If anything, what Kirino has been doing should have estranged them, but it didn't, meaning Kyousuke was a hopeless siscon from the get-go, no matter how much Kirino tried to drive him away.

[MFauli]

You´d be right .... if it wasn´t for Kirino who introduced Kyousuke to the world of imouto-hentai-games. That´s what really started it all.

[Ryllharu]

I'm with MFauli on this one. Kirino is a brocon who has subverted her brother into being a siscon.

Think about what type of games she loves the most. Little Sister Ero games. Not yuri games. The protagonist of those games is a helpful Big Brother character. She drools with delight over that aspect, often literally. Their relationship began to get repaired once she asked him for advice and guidance, where he was fulfilling a big brother role.

Now she's been forcing him to play the games too. This has caused Kyousuke to start to dote on his little sister. She puts up a strong front that she doesn't enjoy this, but she secretly loves it. She couldn't perform well when she was abroad. Her lie is that it is because she was separated from anime. The US has a strong anime market as far as Western countries are concerned. But she got out of her funk after her brother showed up. It definitely isn't anime that makes her do her best. Her younger rival noticed the difference. That same girl made Kirino upset when she was pretending to be a little sister. Kuroneko using "Onii-san" makes Kirino upset. Clear signs of jealousy.

She loved that fake date a lot more than she was letting on. She forces him to come with her whenever she goes shopping with her otaku friends (or without them for that matter, so long as it isn't her "normal" friends).

The game fetish she'd had since the beginning shows the truth of her innermost desires. It's not to have a little sister of her own. It's incest between a strong brother figure and a little sister.

[Kraco]

That's not really what I'm arguing against. I'm saying that if Kyousuke wasn't a siscon, nothing would have ever happened. Because Kirino showed him less love than to a cockroach from the beginning. A normal brother would have set ever more distance to such a sister. Kirino is obviously a brocon with the worst personality in the history of anime, but if Kyousuke hadn't been a siscon, this would have been a really short story. Only by being a creepy siscon, he can stomach all the torture and insults from Kirino.

[shinta|hikari]

I agree with both of you.

Kyousuke has always loved his little sister too much (but pretended not to), but only started acting on it after Kirino started to mess with him.