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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Though fortunately Takagi and Saiko aren't arrogant people so it's not the whole truth.
    Yeah, that´s what saves the scene from being "really mean". Definitely would be worse if Saiko and Takagi would laugh about other´s inferior skills. And then there´s this 15-year old guy who already won a prize and is apparently better skilled than even Saiko, so it´s not like Saiko has it all, already.

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    [TMD A-Destiny] - Bakuman 05 [480p]
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    I decided to have a look at Ayako's release because for some reason TMD-A-Destiny deemed it fit to make the 720p a 460MB release. However, Ayako apparently has fired all of their QCs, so it's no good.

    I wonder if Ayako's video and TMD-A-Destiny's subs could be easily tweaked compatible...

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    The 720p version looks like garbage anyway Kraco

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    Translation and encoding complaints aside (which are definitely warranted), I was surprised how much time they jumped here. Or I guess I should say I'm surprised they did it, and happy they did. It wasn't a few days...between the exams and the uniform changes, it was a few weeks or up to even a couple months.

    They're not glancing over the fact that getting up to the level of skill where one might feel confident enough to submit a one-shot takes a lot of time. Especially for Saiko to get to the level where he doesn't feel like he is completely losing to this Niizuma guy their own age. At least a couple of months passed during this episode. They're also complete novices at doing this kind of production at all, so Takagi takes a long time to write the names, and Saiko takes even longer to prep the manuscripts.

    Manga aside, I loved the scene with Azuki and Kaya. They were so damn cute teasing each other. First Kaya tickling Azuki, and then Azuki grabbing Kaya's hands and spinning her before telling her she already likes guys more than Kaya does. You could see that the two of them are really close friends. Though the best part was Kaya mocking Iwase.

    We better see more of Kaya. Though I should think we should also finally see a bit more of Iwase. She has been mentioned a bunch of times, but we've barely heard her speak. I can't help but wonder how much of a role she'll play in all this with this level of attention toward her.


    I should also mention that we see Saiko's mom being worried about his test scores (I assume Takagi helped him study). Gee, could it be that she didn't want him to do something impractical because she was acting like a good parent?

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    wow, this ep was over too fast.

    I dont know how I should feel about Saiko praising Takagi´s stories. Is it just a "within-the-universe-of-bakuman"-praise, or do the authors of the show really think such stories are fine and original? Well, I shouldnt complain too much about that, since Im currently writing a story thats not too dissimilar to Takagi´s first entry

    Saiko continuing to ink his drawings when he was clearly too tired angered me a bit - and it didnt surprise me what happened then, ruining a whole page of their manga. As a pro, one should acknowledge when stamina is interfering with the kind of quality you want to achieve.

    But...something a bit more general I realized while watching this episode: What exactly is the pull towards this show? I guess it´s the insight into the process of manga-making, because...there really isnt any excitement, is there? Saiko has great drawing skills, Takagi great story writing-skills, and even though there´s another boy currently triumphing over the two, it´s clear to me that Saiko and Takagi will succeed in the end. I´ll keep watching, surely, but I couldnt help but feel that the show would be more interesting if the main characters weren´t such already skilled guys. See that classmate of last episode that thought he was oh so great, but really wasnt. That would be a more interesting starting point for a show´s hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyougaZell
    What mangas were on the table when Takagi was reading? I can't identify the one in the center. Death Note, One Piece, Bleach and Dragon ball are obvious though.
    I realized it when I was writing up the rest of this post. One of the manga is Hikaru no Go, the other is probably another title by Obata Takeshi (Bakuman, Death Note artist).

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    I dont know how I should feel about Saiko praising Takagi´s stories. Is it just a "within-the-universe-of-bakuman"-praise, or do the authors of the show really think such stories are fine and original? Well, I shouldnt complain too much about that, since Im currently writing a story thats not too dissimilar to Takagi´s first entry
    I thought "The Two Earths" was a bit of a cliche shonen battle concept. It basically creates a means by which there can be some kind of "revolutionary" combat with sci-fi, "oh crap, you're my double!" surprise moments. That doesn't make it bad, but it gives us a good idea of what they're into as a mangaka duo. Pretty much the same stuff the Bakuman/Death Note duo is into, unsurprisingly.

    Saiko continuing to ink his drawings when he was clearly too tired angered me a bit - and it didnt surprise me what happened then, ruining a whole page of their manga. As a pro, one should acknowledge when stamina is interfering with the kind of quality you want to achieve.
    I agree that Takagi should have stopped him when he saw Saiko nodding off, but I guess it is a pretty common occurrence for mangaka. They have things like that in their gaiden pages in the volumes all the time.

    But...something a bit more general I realized while watching this episode: What exactly is the pull towards this show? I guess it´s the insight into the process of manga-making, because...there really isnt any excitement, is there? Saiko has great drawing skills, Takagi great story writing-skills, and even though there´s another boy currently triumphing over the two, it´s clear to me that Saiko and Takagi will succeed in the end. I´ll keep watching, surely, but I couldnt help but feel that the show would be more interesting if the main characters weren´t such already skilled guys. See that classmate of last episode that thought he was oh so great, but really wasnt. That would be a more interesting starting point for a show´s hero.
    It's not really the goal, which is marriage to Azuki for Saiko, it's the path they take to get there. The draw for me in the manga has always been the characters primarily. Takagi and Saiko doing stupid things and having "serious humor" moments throughout the series. I'd say there is a lot of room for excitement. The two taking their work to JACK [JUMP] and making progress and growing as mangaka while having panics, crises and humor along the way.

    As a fan of the manga, amazingly, it works. There is tension in the series because the original authors are a really good author/artist combo. They know how to evoke tension both in the story and display it visually. They can make a topic like making a phone call exciting because to Saiko and Takagi, it is. They're nervous as hell.

    It's hard to describe, and I know I won't be able to without citing examples and spoiling the story.

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    gg - Episode 05


    "I like boys even more than you do!" - How does one respond to that?

    That was both honest and funny at the same time.

    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    I laughed a lot at the FUSION

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    If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~

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    A jolly good ep. Hattori's analysis of the manuscript was sound. The teacher forcing those two to sit right next to each other was hilarious.

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    Rather weak, because predictable, episode. At least my fear that some old editor would remember Mashiro´s uncle didnt come true. That´d be really stupid.

    It´s going all too mooth, imo, though. Same with Azuki becoming a seiyu. This show makes it look like getting into that business is super easy.

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    Easy..? Did you miss the part where they worked their asses off the entire time? They also have the talent for it.

    Maybe the time skip made it seem less difficult though.
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    Azuki isn't a seiyuu yet. She was just attending a class for training one's verbal skills. And I very much imagine anybody with just enough dough to pay the fee can attend that class. So, it's quite the contrary to what you said: She needs to work and train hard to get into the business. She won't be a voice actress until she has got her first role in a production.

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    I also have to say that was not "easy" in anyway.

    Mashiro is a talented artist who have won many award for his skills. Takagi is a genius student who's the top of his class and shows talent for writing. The both of them realizes how difficult it is to get into the business despite having talents at what they do. Mashiro was willing to scrap his entire initial draft and redo simply because he thought it wasn't good enough when compared to Nizuma Eiji.
    Last edited by Dark Dragon; Tue, 11-09-2010 at 03:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon View Post
    I also have to say that was not "easy" in anyway.

    Mashiro is a talented artist who have won many award for his skills. Takagi is a genius student who's the top of his class and shows talent for writing. The both of them realizes how difficult it is to get into the business despite having talents at what they do. Mashiro was willing to scrap his entire initial draft and redo simply because he thought it wasn't good enough when compared to Nizuma Eiji.
    What made it seem "easy" was that they didn't get bounced back by an editor (well, they did.. but it wasn't a complete bounce), and much of their work and prior "errors" were self-corrected, making it seem more like they polished themselves up rather than hitting a wall.

    Takagi laughing his ass off in the back row made that scene for me.

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    gg - Episode 07





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    Of all things, I never expected Nizuma Eiji to speak like a normal human.
    Last edited by Buffalobiian; Sat, 11-13-2010 at 09:49 PM.

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    do i have to write something controversial so that you guys start talking about this episode? :P

    Rather boring imo. Looked like they were going to develop their relationship, but in the end nothing happened. More focus on their manga-career please. Oh, and Azuki still looks kinda creepy because it looks as if she has no eye brows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    do i have to write something idiotic so that you guys start talking about this episode? :P
    Fixed

    And lack of discussion comes from lack of content, it was a boring episode

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    [TMD A-Destiny] - Bakuman 08 [480p]
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