I'm liking these episodes with just two or three of the survivors, it allows for more personal interaction. I especially like the Daryl and Beth episode, though I thought for sure they'd be boning before the end of the episode. Next episode doesn't look quite so good, as its more Maggie running around endangering her people while looking for Glen. Bleh.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
At some points yes, with two or three survivors, you have the ability to do more character development/backstory. Unfortunately, I just think there's too much filler. They are trying to drag it out so much. The whole episode was basically Daryl and Beth talking back and forth about what kind of alcohol is good and then Daryl finally admitting he felt like losing the prison was his fault for not being there. 1 hr for that. At least let us see some chemistry between them, it's not even realistic how they don't have feelings for each other.
How did you not feel the growing sexual/romantic tension between them? I think it's pretty obvious they are developing feelings for each other, and in the next episode preview they even show them holding hands. I preferred it to the Rick/Carl and Carl/Michonne pairings.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
They definitely have a growing relationship. But it's so slow that it feels like there's nothing there. We just basically saw them spend 2 days together and they didn't talk much. Dialogue was really hard. Welp, about to watch this week's ep.
Yeah but that's Daryl's character, he's not much of a talker and he's not one to easily open up to a sunshine and lollipops type girl like Beth. A lot was said about their characters because they didn't talk. By the end, they were closer in a deeper and more meaningful way so that if/when Daryl dies, Beth will definitely miss him (unlike her last 2 boyfriends).
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Finally, this last ep we saw that relationship thing we were talking about. All it takes is that little look in their eyes.
Anyways, it looks like Daryl lost Beth. Why would she drive so far away?
Originally Posted by lilphatboi88
She did not drive herself, she was abducted.
They're intentionally dragging out the story right now because it's almost the end of the season. I guarantee the finale will have each group end up at Terminus, either at the same time, or within a few days. Just in case it wasn't obvious enough. In any case though, I don't really understand the distaste of this "filler", given that the majority of the TV series isn't canon (which we've been over before). So much is happening all at once, I feel like they're doing a good job of maintaining each story. Sure, some have been more interesting than others, but what's happening now beats the first few episodes of the season, and it's definitely better than half of season 2 at the farm.
Does anyone else think the "biker" group that Daryl met at the end of the episode is the same group that showed up at the house Rick was at? I don't recall what anyone other than the people that died looked like. It'll be interesting to see what happens there.
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
Yes it is the same group. The leader that is shown talking to Daryl is the same guy that was on the porch before Rick made his escape.
Wow, just saw the Grove episode and things got really dark. Carol is a badass, so different from when the series started and I wanted her character to die a gruesome death. I'm surprised she handled the little girls like she did and that she admitted what she had done back at the prison to Tyrese, and I'm surprised he took it so well.
After this season of smaller group dynamics, I'd like to see the group reunited and with some greater purpose than just surviving. I'd prefer they don't join a larger group at Terminus though.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Guess we won't have to worry about that, huh.
That was seriously an amazing season finale. I knew Terminus wasn't going to be this "safe haven" that everyone thought it was, but I'm actually having a hard time trying to figure out how it ties into the comics. The best guess I can make are the Hunters, if only because of the (implied) cannibalism. I'm very interested in seeing how things play out in the next season. It's already been confirmed that, while Terminus will play a major role in the beginning, Gareth and his group are not the main villains of season 5. I'm thinking Negan will make his appearance.
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
Those who arrive, stir fried.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
Saw the season finale, pretty good way to end on a cliffhanger and to reunite the group. It was a bit frustrating though, with the characters still doing ridiculously dumb stuff after having been through so much. Carl running to help a random stranger yelling, then Rick and Michonne camping in the middle of the street... you'd think they would have learned by now. But who knows, maybe they're just tired of hiding and running, or they've survived so far so they're getting complacent.
One thing I thought was silly was how the bandits reacted to Rick going feral on their leader. They live in a post-apocalyptic hellscape filled with zombies, one of their members was about to rape a boy, and they've beaten people to death from their own group. You'd think they wouldn't be so shocked at seeing a guy rip another guy's throat out with his teeth.
What makes you all so sure they Terminus folks are cannibals? Is that from the comics? Maybe I need to rewatch the episode and pay more attention to the end.
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“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I'm a little late to this post, but no, Terminus is not from the comics. It is strictly a TV creation. However, there has been speculation that Gareth is based on Chris, who is the leader of the Hunters in the comics. The Hunters were a group of people that resorted to cannibalism as food became scarce. The decided to hunt people because it was easier. If this is speculation true, then it would make sense for Terminus to be a community of cannibals. Instead of them hunting, they are luring their victims in with false hope. Even without that, though, there were some very subtle hints that allude to their ways. First of all, how was the grillmaster able to cook so much meat without any livestock in sight? Secondly, as Rick's group is running through the compound, a fenced area flashes by the screen that shows skeletal remains of human beings. ...I think there was one more thing, but I honestly don't remember it at this point.
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
Ahh I see. During the entire chase scene with Rick's group I kept thinking they were being herded in a specific direction. Some of the rooms they went through, like the one with all the writing on the walls, hinted that the place is a death-trap for newcomers.
It's funny how the people of Terminus look like a bunch of hip vegans and farmers' market type of people. It'll be really ironic if they are cannibals.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I don't read the comic. But I did notice this.
http://media.comicbook.com/wp-conten...-cannibals.png
And I noticed that there were very few survivors. Which is strange, considering that they advertise sanctuary. Even the governor's camp had like 100 people. This one seems to have like 20.
"After all, I am strangely colored."
That picture about seals the deal... gross!
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I've noticed in cast interviews that Lauren Cohan (Maggie) distances herself from or just gives the cold shoulder to Steven Yeun (Glenn), like if they weren't co-stars on the show, she wouldn't give him the time of day. Has anyone else noticed that or is that just my yellowman sensitivities to being shunned by hot white women?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Amazing premier. Action straight from the beginning. Much better than the start of last season.
Without going into too much discussion, I'm glad the Terminus storyline has been wrapped up, more or less. We know Gareth is still alive and will be joining Rick's group for an unknown reason (based on the SDCC trailer), and the flashbacks indicate that we'll probably get an episode dedicated to him (much like the random alcoholic black dude that I can't remember the name of). While the prospect of dealing with a cannibalistic community fits perfectly with world of TWD, I just don't see how you can stretch it out over several episodes. At that point, it would almost be like Governor 2.0. I thought it was brought to an end quite nicely.
Oh, and the return of Morgan. That's a thing.
It's dangerous to go alone. Take Nep.
I thought Bob was going to die when he decided to talk to Gareth. I figured if any of those 4 had to die I would be ok if it was Bob.
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