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    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil View Post
    The necklace is no longer needed now that Naruto has control of the Kyubi's power.
    Neither is Lee, Sai, Neji, etc in Naruto part II, maybe Kishimoto should blow them up too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Neither is Lee, Sai, Neji, etc in Naruto part II, maybe Kishimoto should blow them up too?
    But then who will inherit the will of fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne View Post
    That necklace should have never been introduced in the first place. It never really served a purpose. I think Kishi wanted to go somewhere with it, but wasn't sure where, so he just destroyed it and would rather forget he ever introduced it.
    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil View Post
    The necklace is no longer needed now that Naruto has control of the Kyubi's power.
    I believe that the necklace holds great importance to the story.Seeing that Kishi took the time and effort to draw it out and explain how it tied in with Tsunade and her brother and her boyfriend and came into naruto's possesion.
    REFRESHER: the necklace was originally Tsunade's grandfather's (the FIRST hokage), he gave it to her, on her brother's 12th birthday she gave it to him so he could be like their grandfather and become hokage but the next day he died in battle, then she gave it to her boyfriend who wanted to be hokage too but he died in battle too. In each of these instances the necklace was the only thing that was left of each of these men. The fist gave it away and the last two had their lives taken away leaving the necklace as they persued their dreams to become hokage.
    With naruto changing the fate of the necklace of death by destroying it (whether intintonal or not) it was a symbol representing how he wont die, he might just be able to achieve the very thing the last two owners of the necklace couldn't as he pushes forward with their aspiration's at heart.
    The necklace hold a symbloicness about it.
    JUST BECAUSE: now if you want to go any further you could think about how the first hokage was the original holder of the necklace, it makes you think "why did he pass down his naecklace to begin with?" "what else did he pass down besides the necklace?" well he was the founder of the hidden leaf right, then he had that epic fight with madara at the "Final Valley" yet the battle still rages on (he fought there with sasuke *coincidence??? NOT!*). In a way you could think that since the necklace was "passed down" to naruto he also had the aspirations of the first hokage along with his responibilities.
    food for thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohaku_Sarutobi View Post
    I believe that the necklace holds great importance to the story.
    The point is that nobody gives a shit about the necklace. Its of no significance because it has been destroyed already and only received mention a time or two. It certainly didn't need a mile long post about it that nobody is going to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne View Post
    The point is that nobody gives a shit about the necklace. Its of no significance because it has been destroyed already and only received mention a time or two. It certainly didn't need a mile long post about it that nobody is going to read.
    Welcome to Gotwoot.
    Not going to lie, I skimmed that shit, and he quoted me directly.

    But yes, welcome to the forums!

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Kohaku, how long will a post be went you talk about something if it's that long when you talk about nothing?

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    Mokuton-sensei(not his real name) can be disposed off as well since, Naruto have control over Kyubi.

    To talk about things of significance, I think the 4th Hokage's special kunai deserve its on topic. Surely, passing on the legacy of the 4th Hokage should involve passing the special kunai + the lightning teleport technique to Naruto. While we now have Naruto talking to his mother, it is kind of sad that his mother and father didnt bother to pass him their kickass technique.... just the lovey-dovey stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne View Post
    The point is that nobody gives a shit about the necklace. Its of no significance because it has been destroyed already and only received mention a time or two. It certainly didn't need a mile long post about it that nobody is going to read.
    Welcome to Gotwoot.
    I second this.

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    What a way to welcome someone. Discouraging him from posting again in the future. Just ignore it if you don't like the post. Hell you guys should be used to it you did it every week with mine.

    On necklace topic: Couldn't care any less. Anyone who thought it would actually hold the kyubi back or serve a purpose was putting too much stock in it. Now there's a war around the corner I don't think Tsunade's gonna be grilling Naruto like george foreman about a necklace anytime soon. Would be funny if she decked him at the end of the series about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam98034 View Post
    Kohaku, how long will a post be went you talk about something if it's that long when you talk about nothing?
    .......

    What!?
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    Still make no sense, can you translate the whole thing maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne View Post
    The point is that nobody gives a shit about the necklace. Its of no significance because it has been destroyed already and only received mention a time or two. It certainly didn't need a mile long post about it that nobody is going to read.
    Welcome to Gotwoot.
    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil View Post
    Not going to lie, I skimmed that shit, and he quoted me directly.

    But yes, welcome to the forums!
    Two things
    1. I have been in other forums and you two seem to be the ones who dont know how to behave in them
    2. I am a seasoned naruto fan, whether or not you care is not what i am worried about. Those who have the sense to appreciate what i have to say (who are true naruto fans) would either read the whole thing or have the sense enough to not bash it with ignorance

    Thankyou for inviting me to this forum
    And thakyou for your critisizim (whether constructive or not)
    Thankyou to UChessmaster for reading and to those who defended me
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    TACORRITO?!? In one fell swoop you have dishonored the sanctity of the taco and innocence of the burrito! Creating a bastard child with no place to call home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohaku_Sarutobi View Post
    Two things
    1. I have been in other forums and you two seem to be the ones who dont know how to behave in them
    2. I am a seasoned naruto fan, whether or not you care is not what i am worried about. Those who have the sense to appreciate what i have to say (who are true naruto fans) would either read the whole thing or have the sense enough to not bash it with ignorance

    Thankyou for inviting me to this forum
    And thakyou for your critisizim (whether constructive or not)
    Thankyou to UChessmaster for reading and to those who defended me
    Seriously. I am nothing like Sidnne, please don't put me in a category with him. The reason that I skimmed your post is because the first 2 paragraphs were things we already knew.

    And a solid counter point to your non-argument that it is better that the necklace was broken is the fact that the necklaces as you put it because it shows "how he wont die" isn't that great of a point at all. Naruto has had the necklace for over 3 years now and still lived. The others only had the necklace for a short time, so basically he has already broken the "Curse" by having it on for more than a week and living. Secondly, I think symbolically I think that it would have had much greater an impact if we saw the necklace on Naruto while he became the Hokage, because then we could still infer that Naruto fought to be there and deserved the necklace and the title once held by the first.

    assertnfailure (7:40:03 PM): dude....your posts are a bunch of nonsense

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    Who's the one with no balls repping me saying Im a faggot? Not that I care I just wanna find out who it is so I could maybe help you and get you to grow up a little. I know life is hard outside your world of cartoons and comics but I think its time you learn a new way to show you disagree with someone. That one word from middle school is a little stale by now.

    And apparently you have a lot of hate in you to go and say that being gay is an insult. Theyr people too, you do know this? You dont seem to have any grasp on reality or life.

    Cant disagree with me right here? Right cause you have no backbone, youre probably slunched over in your chair right now grinning that I actually acknowledged your existence.

    That was all an allusion to show how much I thought this chapter was rocking!!

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    Well it seems we have someone that really enjoys giving neg rep.

    Mr. rep person: I`m not trolling, is just that i really have absolutelly no fucking clue about what he said, maybe you can translate for me? i bet you speak 12 year old grammar as well, also while we`re at it, please google "troll".
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    Hi all. Its been a long time. I just got up to date with the manga again and I must say that I'm not dissapointed with the story, if we leave out a few strange things like the eyed arms etc... (I wonder if that arm could cry seeing what bs kishimoto can make after drinking too much sake).

    After this flashback about Naruto's birth (I would say about Minatos awesomes) I came to realize that all those things about Naruto surpassing the 4th is just lame. That man can't be surpassed. It should be hard for Naruto to realize how noob he is compared to his father and its very ironic to see how badly he loses against a father that he didnt even get to know.

    I wonder if Kishi is going to take advantage about this knowledge Naruto got to make him some kind of a more "realistic" and mature character with his father as an example (yeah I know that talking about reality when a guy has a 50 meter tall fox inside is quite disturbing), I hope that he doesnt let this chance to improve his character with some kind of basis.

    But then I guess that we can just wait for another nonsense power up like smashing a crate and eating some kind of mushroom to make Nerfruto stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil View Post
    Seriously. I am nothing like Sidnne, please don't put me in a category with him. The reason that I skimmed your post is because the first 2 paragraphs were things we already knew.

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    you have the same color scheme in the avatar, a black and white character that I skimm through, it's possible to confuse you two.

    anyway, I agree, the necklace had meaning when it was introduced, because it was Tsuande's 'good' bet. Tsuande put her trust in Naruto's words that he'll become the hokage, and he lived through the following battle. restoring her faith in the power of love and leaf. (order of things might be slightly different from how it happened, I don't remember whether she gave him the necklace before or after she revived him from Kabuto's hits).

    then, it was revealed that Yamato (or tensai, whatever name he goes by?) through the magical power of the 1st hokage, can control (negate) the kyuubi through it. which would have been interesting, if Yamato wasn't removed from the story (along with Sai) right away. and now there's the senjou\uchiha whatever blood, which somehow looks like everyone and their mother can control the kyuubi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Neither is Lee, Sai, Neji, etc in Naruto part II, maybe Kishimoto should blow them up too?
    Yes. that was the point I was pushing when shit went down, especially Chouji. he did his part, having him survive just undermined the point of what he did. just like the entire dragonballPaynewish made the arc seem lame. I can't see Lee getting any real progress as a fighting ninja, despite the fact he'll be in every single naruto game from now until forever.
    but that's a different point.

    also, welcome, Kohaku.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    Yes. that was the point I was pushing when shit went down, especially Chouji. he did his part, having him survive just undermined the point of what he did.
    I like to think Kishimoto let Chouji live because he was forced by Shonen Jumps *not* to kill the Konoha Twelve, same with Neji.
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