Did you even read my posting? No matter what of the two is the bigger reason for Rei´s anger, it fucking does not make killing okay! Not in the slightest. But I guess you´d have also been okay with Rei killing the guy that touched her tits, because...sigh. People/Adults are humilitated by other people/adults all the time, that´s reality. If that grants you killing them, murder would have to be legalized, lol. But keep on defending that bitch that is Rei.Originally Posted by RyougaZell
It could be making Rei flunk a year just opened her eyes. I doubt that was the only fell deed by Shido even before the zombie attack and they already saw what he's like after it. Besides, I got the impression Rei was more angry about the humialition her dad suffered than about her own fate.
The nukes will destroy zombies but humans even better, no doubt. I doubt the zombies are very sensitive to radiation, unless somebody actually found out they are and thus ordered the attack. But on the other hand, big cities should be full of zombies and thus if they are nuked, the less zombie contaminated outlands will have better chances.
A decent episode despite the stupid tent scene that was too detached from reality. Saeko behaved nicely and coolly. Komuro should definitely go for her!
You are sympathising a little bit too much with those reality denying people in the tent, MFauli. Old man Takagi is certainly at the other end of the spectrum, but he's nothing but honest about it. He told Komuro as well that he has no means of taking care of an infinite amount of people, especially since it seems like they are leaving as well. He's quite old himself and very experienced by any reckoning and most likely saw immediately what manner of a man Shido is. A dangerous man to have among the gullible you are trying to keep under control. Similarly he judged the students a lost cause.
Don't seriously tell you hadn't realised what he is like after the public execution scene. Under the chaotic circumstances he deemed judging Rei's actions more valuable than some worthless piece of shit man's life. Very simple.
The episode showed a bloody nuclear holocaust beginning to ice the zombie armageddon cake and you still try to judge the people based on civilized peace time standards?
You´re accepting the "new reality" too easily, Kraco. Right, old Takagi has been portrayed as a very strict man, but I must have missed the scene when he said that they wouldn´t welcome any more survivors. And to send a guy that you don´t like into the certainty of death is murder no matter how you look at it. If old Takagi would simply say "we dont take anymore guests" it´d be different. But that´s not how it went.
And Rei´s behavior cannot be okay´ed by any means shown. She wanted to kill him because he made her repeat a year, and I dont think you´re deluding yourself into thinking "she only reacted that way because of the Zombie-breakout". That zombie-thing played no role in her actions towards Shido-sensei. And no matter if she did what she did because of the year at school or Shido´s actions towards her father, NOTHING of that makes killing someone okay. Definitely not.And again, Rei wasn´t taking action under situational influence.
And anyone partificipating in that scene didn´t know about the nuclear attack at that moment, so dont bring in bs-arguments
Nah, the nuclear war didn't affect them at that point but it should affect how you consider their actions. Because it signified people were ready to bring in the nukes. That's how the mental state had developed until that point. When you nuke a city with 99% of the population turned zombies, it still means you are going to kill a whole bunch of people as well. So, how is that different from sending away somebody? At least they didn't take his car and send him away on foot. He still has a chance equal to what he had before finding the mansion. In Takagi's position I'd have sent Shido away as well. Like I said in my previous post, you don't take in somebody who will undermine you behind your back.
If you missed the scene of the resources, it was when Komuro was talking with old man Takagi about going to rescue their families and sending them to the mansion. Takagi said he can't take care of that many people. So, basically he wasn't that keen on taking care of the busload of students in the first place. He prioritises his own people.
I still maintain Rei wanted to kill Shido for all the things accumulated, not only because of one repeated year. Plus the fact she has been "killing" zombies already and they had killed the molester back then. In short, she's used to killing and views it as a solution.
Well, I'm not saying I condone all of their actions and decisions, but that's irrelevant as long as I can understand the reasoning behind them. And that I do. With the exception of Komuro not going steady with Saeko and forgetting the rest! Har har.
Well, I can´t understand Rei´s reasoning, at least from a "sane human being"-point of view. They killed zombies, and Komuro wounded the molester, but Rei´s extreme disgust and anger towards Shido-sensei existed before all that when they were inside the bus. I bet if she was alone with him there she´d have wanted to kill him, too.
I stay with my opinion about Rei that I had long ago: She´s an insecure bitch that wants everything to go the way she likes. Evidence is how she complained about Komuro killing his zombified friend, her reactions towards Shido-sensei and when she wanted to kill the molester. Really, this show would be a happy end imo if she died in a gruesome way. How about being raped to death by zombie-Shido?
Nah, it was better to send him away alive. The tent people were already doubting Takagi after the execution of a zombie, so executing the still living son of a senator would have had nastier effects. However, sending him away, while still looking dubious to some, is quite humane, especially in the eyes of reality deniers. I'm not sure Takagi much cares what they are thinking of him and his methods but even he should be wary of having a rebellion in his hands. He has enough worries as it is.
Makes sense. Sending him away is pretty much a death sentence anyway.
Peace.
Well, while I dislike Rei almost as much as you do, to keep things in the proper perspective, the truth is that the gas station dude was already guilty of an assault and molestation, Shido was guilty of corruption by seriously misusing a position of authority and responsibility toward minors. Rei is guilty of... Threatening to kill somebody but not actually doing it? I think you are criticizing her a bit harshly compared to her "victims". Theoretical future crimes aren't usually ranked very high in civilized societies. Even an attempted murder requires something to have happened, even if it's just a bullet missing its mark. But if the suspect never discharged the gun, it's pretty hard to accuse of attempted murder.
Well, Rei didnt experience Shido´s "misusing of a position of authority and responsibility toward minors" as she had long ago left the bus, before Shido started his "religion", lol. So what is left is a guy that took advantage of his business-position and that made her repeat a year. Hardly anything criminal, happens all the time in rl. And again, the molester only grabbed her tit, nothing more. Also, some of you defend Rei by saying "it´s the situation, zombies, a nuclear attack, omg!", well, isnt the same true for the molester?
I simply cant accept Rei´s intentions of killing other people for minor, if at all, "crimes". That´s why she comes off as being a self-centered bitch.
All I'm saying is that intentions mean absolutely nothing if nothing happens. I mean, I have thought countless times I'll take my katana and make the downstairs chain smoker very familiar with its blade but after all these years the chain smoker is still smoking and I'm still contemplating doing something about it... Does this make me some scumbag criminal, eh?
I certainly don't think making a normal student repeat a year happens all the time. Assuming she was a normal student and not a problem student. So far she hasn't indicated she sucked at academics or was a cause of public disturbances. Quite the contrary: It was obviously problem for the whole family that their child unexpectedly needed to repeat a year. Don't forget this is Japan where your public image means almost more than your real skills and abilities.
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Awesome's back, and boy did it feel good.
I personally thought Mad was the lucky one, but he's probably dead now.
I didn't know nukes could be used that way (though I always wondered what happened if they explode in the atmosphere). It makes sense to use it as a "humane" way to render a country useless, though I wonder if some of those missiles would have simply nuked high-priority sites all the same.
Only thing that was out of place was that Rei still lanced at the heart.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Ho... And I was wondering why they bothered to explain it because everybody should know the EMP effect even if not the theory behind it. But I suppose it largely depends on whether you have read the right stuff or watched a suitable movie or documentary.
Quite a nice last episode. I really felt like they got back on the right track. Saya's parents also turned out to have been decent enough people, even if they didn't seem too good at saving their own lives...
Well, lets just say: Im glad its finally over.
The amount of stupid in this episode was so all-encompassing that it hurt my brain beyond being able to feel the pain anymore.
Hopefully there´s no second season...I just know that I couldnt stop myself from watching, even though I should know better :/
Manga only has 27 chapters due to stupid long hiatus. This series overall animated about 16~18 chapters. So if they ever make a sequel... it will take several years. Heck... only 27 chapters in about 4 years of publication is quite ridiculous
Lol, even Im more productive on the story Im currently writing
or played modern warfare 2 ^^Ho... And I was wondering why they bothered to explain it because everybody should know the EMP effect even if not the theory behind it. But I suppose it largely depends on whether you have read the right stuff or watched a suitable movie or documentary.
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I've played MW2. I never thought of the EMPs there as nukes though, and I can't recall whether the 25-streak nuke does that. People just can't get kill-streaks like that when I'm around
edit: unless you meant campaign-mode.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Well.
That would make an awesome version of Left 4 Dead Japan
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