Clearly, Pain has more than just those 6 powers. He caught Jiraiya's chakra through his rain jutsu, and he's used an ability that allows him to channel Kisame and Itachi's chakra through those minions' dead bodies.
Clearly, Pain has more than just those 6 powers. He caught Jiraiya's chakra through his rain jutsu, and he's used an ability that allows him to channel Kisame and Itachi's chakra through those minions' dead bodies.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I agree I just think it's Nagato that used those powers, not his Pain bodies.
Arkangel sarcastically recommended this episode to me in IRC. Sucks for him because it ruled. The ludicrous excesses and quirks of the animation are way better than the boring and lifeless house style that permeates shows like Naruto and Bleach and I wish this guy did more episodes.
You said it. Amen.Originally Posted by Y
Lol i didn't recommend shit, you asked for who was subbing naruto these days and i gave you a torrent
I did personally think this episode's animation was awful though
Don't post.
Y's trolling aside, after rewatching this episode i feel the good parts outweigh the bad ones, it's just that the truly horrid moments were so shocking that they clouded my judgment through the rest of it
It didn't help that they made a mess of pain's 5 second rule and gave the Kyuubi pew pew lasers
You called me a troll in IRC too. I don't think you know what it means. I'm definitely not trolling anyone by suggesting that the creator of, by far, the most lauded fight scene episodes in the entire series has put another good one out. I'm also not trolling when I suggest that the house style of Naruto is really boring, cheap and ugly.
Nope. Just wrong.
Do you have any complaints about the content of the episode besides nitpicking continuity issues about whether or not Pain's durability or their respective attacks fit into the canon correctly? I don't find any of those issues compelling enough to detract from the episode's quality, especially since as Assertn pointed out some of them are mistaken.
In the animator's previous episode where Naruto and Sasuke fought, Naruto suddenly developed martial arts skills that he had never previously displayed, throwing out some actual Karate-style moves, as well as various nitpicky things like the ability to shoot around underwater like a torpedo. Is this material "filler"? Sure. Does it make for a more interesting fight scene, a scene in which continuity concerns only play the smallest part? Definitely.
The only really major issue is Pain's forcefield which could be explained away as his normal ability if you really wanted to. Let's say that the Kyuubi's attacks were pushing it back and preventing it from expanding and that the whole thing took place in five seconds.
do you mean the "force field" he used to deflect the "pew pew laser"? In his fight against Kakashi, he forced his Almighty Push for a number of seconds repelling Chouji and his dad, so we already saw him hold up a continuous force. besides that his 5 second rule wasn't a set 5. It's all dependent on how much of a force he uses. It took him a lot longer than 5 seconds to recover from blowing up the city, so with something as tiny as those lasers? if he timed it appropriately then it should hardly be any cool-down time at all :\
and for the "pew pew laser", Naruto shot a chakra ball/beam/laser whatever you wanna call it, against Orochimaru. And since he was like double the power of that fight (more tails = more power, right?) is it that hard to think he could do more shots, more quickly?
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Yes. Feel free to read the thread.
Road runner legs.
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I just divined the fact that your posts are about the canonicity of the various attacks used without reading the thread. You got me.
Great, less than 1 second of animation is offputting. I agree, in the Sasuke vs Orochimaru fight he used a much better speedline effect, but it's not exactly earthshatteringly bad.
Really? 1 second?
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/0...ndary-quality/
And those aren't even all of them
Most of them look great in motion. I could do the same thing (people did the same thing) with frames from previous episodes. You know, if I was the kind of fucking moron who thought that freeze framing animation is an appropriate way to critique it. You might as well freeze frame live action shows to find shots where the actors are making dumb facial expressions.
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Oh yeah those were all hand picked shots, the rest were aesthetic perfection
I'm so done with this, we're not even discussing the latest episode anymore, lets just agree it had its good parts and its bad ones and move on
I can't just emptyquote myself so, yeah.
Thats not a bad idea.... All kinds of funny when you do it without purpose other than to pause your show.
I think everyone complained less about the Clone Wars. Not that the animation was better than this and deserved less ridicule, just cared less for some reason. And that was spread across a few episodes and just wasted time, this fight actually had substance. My guess is that you all had this moment so incredibly built through the clouds. Both anime douchbags and manga doucheballs..... been waiting for this fight for a while now, was bound to not meet some expectations.
The latest episode's fight was hard for me to watch after this one, the manga made it feel a hundred ways more epic. And thats not from nostalgia I went back and matched em up. Awful end to the Naruto vs. Pains. Thats alright tho Im expecting big things from the end of this arc.
Arch's link sums it up pretty well(though I don't actually have a problem with Pain's face being superdeformed by the Kyuubi's punch, that actually makes sense).
My primary complaint with the animation in the beginning is they make the Kyuubi look like 3rd Gear Luffy, which works in One Piece because One Piece is crazy fucking ridiculous. Kyuubi's not supposed to be comical.
Like I said earlier, it get's much better right about the time Kyuubi breaks the necklace, and the episode is pretty awesome from there on.
Even one second can completely pull you out of the moment if it's jarring enough.
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