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    Quote Originally Posted by Cal_kashi View Post
    I assure you they would have had she had the talent to hit him with them =/
    I suppose that's true. Half the time you'd think Rasengan was useless as well if you watch Naruto miss with it over and over.

    Does seem like a lot of techniques in the Naruto world all stem from that line of thinking. 1. Create some awesome effect around your hand. 2. Punch enemy. And they all unfortunately rely on being able to get to actually do step 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder View Post
    It's not a lack of courage keeping the others back, but the fact that Naruto insisted that they don't come. Several of them have already tried to go only to be stopped.
    I believe it partially is. They already gave everything they had to beat Pains, suffering uncountable casulties, including named ones, only to see their whole village levelled and even the defeated Pains return in perfect health. At that point they are told by somebody they don't need to fight anymore and to stay at a distance. Psychologically speaking they would feel relief someone else is going to handle the rest. And if that somebody else gets defeated, it's going to be his fault.

    It takes something more to break free of that state. Naturally that something else for Hinata was rather love than courage but from an outsider's pov it's all the same. The rest were just staring at Naruto being impaled and still telling themselves they don't need to do anything anymore. Aside from those who set out to find the real Pain or those too damaged to move, the rest already had broken spirits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I believe it partially is. They already gave everything they had to beat Pains, suffering uncountable casulties, including named ones, only to see their whole village levelled and even the defeated Pains return in perfect health. At that point they are told by somebody they don't need to fight anymore and to stay at a distance. Psychologically speaking they would feel relief someone else is going to handle the rest. And if that somebody else gets defeated, it's going to be his fault.

    It takes something more to break free of that state. Naturally that something else for Hinata was rather love than courage but from an outsider's pov it's all the same. The rest were just staring at Naruto being impaled and still telling themselves they don't need to do anything anymore. Aside from those who set out to find the real Pain or those too damaged to move, the rest already had broken spirits.
    Most of konoha nins are injured. Shikamaru has a broken leg, his dad looks tired and wounded etc. They may have survived Pain's big blast but that doesn't mean they are fresh and ready to fight. If they tried to help Naruto like Hinata did, it would only make the situation worse.

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    As sad as Hinata's death is, i'm still hyped because now we get some Kyuubi action.. about fucking time!

    However.. Pain didn't seem concerned about Naruto going Kyuubi at all, it looked like this is what he wanted all along for some reason... i wonder what he has up his sleeve, aside from giant metal spikes :P
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    He's a genius AND he's not lazy, he was just fortunate the two synergised, just as Aizen planned.
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    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that Hyuuga tells Sakura what happened and she's the one who rushes to Hinata's rescue. I don't think this is the end of Hinata... but a good way to leave the watcher craving the next scene.

    Also, I saw some comments about how it seemed like Pain was waiting for this moment, well the answer to that may be pretty obvious. We all remember when Sasuke was able to enter Naruto's inner world via the Sharingan and face the Kyuubi, so it is fairly safe to assume that Pain can do the same with his Rinnegan, probably with even more abilities as well.

    Something nobody has asked is what exactly did Hinata do at the end there with the chakra stick? She very obviously grabbed it and took some of the pulse, maybe she did something to sabotage it, hamper it, or otherwise transmit her own chakra into it...

    The ending cliffhanger made me want to strangle the studio for not making this a 1hr episode... you can't leave it like that, dammit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmkze04 View Post
    Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if that Hyuuga tells Sakura what happened and she's the one who rushes to Hinata's rescue. I don't think this is the end of Hinata... but a good way to leave the watcher craving the next scene.
    Only thing is, Pain's damn good at killing.

    And if he's trying to make a point to Naruto, I don't see any reason to hold back.

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    Will the next episode be another one of equally stunning quality animation? Or will it be from a different studio? I think I remember reading someone posted that this episode was by those who did the Lee-Gara epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu View Post
    Will the next episode be another one of equally stunning quality animation? Or will it be from a different studio? I think I remember reading someone posted that this episode was by those who did the Lee-Gara epic.
    Judging from the preview the same studio that did this ep will do the next.


    Something nobody has asked is what exactly did Hinata do at the end there with the chakra stick? She very obviously grabbed it and took some of the pulse, maybe she did something to sabotage it, hamper it, or otherwise transmit her own chakra into it...
    I think she grabbed it and tried to pull it out, until the pulse disturbed her and she got thrown into the air (amazingly well done animation with the ragdoll effect, btw). She could barely stand, let alone do anything tactical with it. If it was Neji, he would've been able to zap the ship out of Nagato. I remember him saying that 'everything that has to do with chackra is useless agains Juuken'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harima Kenji View Post
    If it was Neji, he would've been able to zap the ship out of Nagato. I remember him saying that 'everything that has to do with chackra is useless agains Juuken'
    I'm not sure if Nagato's technique is the same as normal chakra. He's more or less infusing the dead bodies with life and controlling them via chakra recievers. And Nagato seemed to be just toying with her for a bit. If he sensed Neji was good, he might have just rag dolled him right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu View Post
    Will the next episode be another one of equally stunning quality animation? Or will it be from a different studio? I think I remember reading someone posted that this episode was by those who did the Lee-Gara epic.
    Yeah it will be. If you still have part 1 episodes, you can use 30, 71, or 133 as a reference to what next week will be like. It's the same director as those episodes)

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    Those people he has brought back seem little more than remote controlled zombies. They can't even work without those rods, I believe. At least we saw the summoner woman had no sense of pain, which strongly speaks for non-complete resurrection.

    I personally wouldn't really like to see Kakashi and Hinata as enemy Pain soldiers. Mainly because whoever from Konoha would be fighting them would clichedly hesitate.

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    Well, if you were just grasping for hope from every direction for the dead folk's sake, then I see your point. For my own part, since time immemorial I've believed in a good story also good guys must die. That's why I rarely hope to see seemingly dead people brought back, even if their demise initially pissed me off, like Hinata's did.

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    I agree that things like 'dragonballs' make death meaningless and actually damage a good story. Stories need risk, anguish etc so that they can have redemption or, at least, a moral.

    That being said, I am part of the crowd that believe Hinata isn't dead: killing her is like kicking a puppy. Kakashi won't be coming back because he is actually useful. Hinata will survive because she isn't.

    I'm still holding out for a Perverted Sage Byakugan user.

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    Man, they seriously need to add some kind of Mangekyou Byakugan because it's seriously weaksauce compared to the other two eye techniques.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnder View Post
    Man, they seriously need to add some kind of Mangekyou Byakugan because it's seriously weaksauce compared to the other two eye techniques.
    Yeah, we need some uber byakugan right now.
    It was always my favorite, from the moment I saw Neji fight, those are just some cool dead looking eyes.

    I get that evolution is there for some reason, and that the sharingan might be better then byakugan. But can it not evolve into something else also?

    I guess one can only hope...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Well, if you were just grasping for hope from every direction for the dead folk's sake, then I see your point. For my own part, since time immemorial I've believed in a good story also good guys must die. That's why I rarely hope to see seemingly dead people brought back, even if their demise initially pissed me off, like Hinata's did.
    I don't actually mind character deaths - I agree, they make the story better, and while I was sad to see both Asuma and Jiraya go, I've no issues with that. Its the way they have handled Kakashi and Hinata's deaths that have convinced me that they aren't 'real' - however it comes about, I'm convinced those two are not gone. I just can't see them killing them off without far more backstory and angst over it then we have seen so far. Will they be back due to a pain ressurection? That's my current theory, but who knows. I'm convinced they will be back though.

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    I am with the people who dislike plots device that cheapens death. Resurrections as puppets though, I like it since the look on the face of opponents fighting their own nakama is priceless.

    eg, Orochimaru resurrecting the 2 Hokage as puppet to fight the 3rd Hokage

    Once again, I am sure everyone would stop watching Harry Potter if we see Dumberdore resurrected.

    If you died you stay dead unless you become a zombie or puppet.


    It should be noted Hinata did take a total of 4-5 Tendo/push pull shot. While we know alot of ninjas/toads were only capable of taking one shot. If she had stay down and not gotten up for more ass kicking, she would have been alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by depthcharge View Post
    It should be noted Hinata did take a total of 4-5 Tendo/push pull shot. While we know alot of ninjas/toads were only capable of taking one shot.
    thats right, but i guess Pain was just toying with her (someone said it before).

    I don't get why Pain said that he can't understand Hinata. Nagato once said his only wish is to protect his two friends... Maybe a hint to what happened to Yahiko?

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    Quote Originally Posted by depthcharge View Post
    It should be noted Hinata did take a total of 4-5 Tendo/push pull shot. While we know alot of ninjas/toads were only capable of taking one shot. If she had stay down and not gotten up for more ass kicking, she would have been alive.
    She was one-shotted in the manga.

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