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    Quote Originally Posted by paper mache View Post
    you knowing me or not knowing me is Irrelevant, look at my profile and you will see my join date...... if you needed more clarification on who you addressing ask me, assumption gets you know were ...referring me as a fan boy , .The movie was ok but you saying you don't like night fights holds little to no weight regarding everything else that the movie had shown or try to portray ... you opinions does matter that is why we are "discussing" but meaningless troll responses will get recycled and thus being called out. In the kingdom of the blind the one eye man is left King... the phrase couldn't been said anymore clearer have a good day Mr. masters
    Ahahaha what the fuck is wrong with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paper mache View Post
    you knowing me or not knowing me is Irrelevant, look at my profile and you will see my join date...... if you needed more clarification on who you addressing ask me, assumption gets you know were ...referring me as a fan boy , .The movie was ok but you saying you don't like night fights holds little to no weight regarding everything else that the movie had shown or try to portray ... you opinions does matter that is why we are "discussing" but meaningless troll responses will get recycled and thus being called out. In the kingdom of the blind the one eye man is left King... the phrase couldn't been said anymore clearer have a good day Mr. masters
    That`s funny cause i gave my opinion on something that happened on the movie and you acted like a douchebag claiming that no one cares, if no one cares why did you answered then? i`m a troll now, cool, tell me more about assumptions please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    That`s funny cause i gave my opinion on something that happened on the movie and you acted like a douchebag claiming that no one cares, if no one cares why did you answered then? i`m a troll now, cool, tell me more about assumptions please.
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    I think he's saying your complaint about night fights is trifling and has almost zero to do with whether or not it's a good or bad movie.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paper mache View Post
    whatever you say Trollmaster
    What a magnificent, well thought answer, now do a your mom joke. You can call me a troll all you want kid, it won`t make it so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I think he's saying your complaint about night fights is trifling and has almost zero to do with whether or not it's a good or bad movie.
    I didn`t said it was a bad movie because i didn`t liked the night fight though, as a matter of fact i said that i liked it, it was a simple side observation that encouraged him to be a dick somehow.
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    This movie was alright. It's definitely not on the level of any of the LOTR films, but it was enjoyable nontheless. Excited for part 2. I really liked how they added all these other creatures not seen before in the LOTR films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    I think he's saying your complaint about night fights is trifling and has almost zero to do with whether or not it's a good or bad movie.
    I couldn't say it better myself....

    @uchessmaster... Mr.Master what response did you wanted from me? If you wanted me to say sorry for my prior post... I am not .... I believe your upset because I called you out on your post, which in fact had little to do with nothing... I choose not to response prior and just saying "whatever", because I'm grown .... Obviously I hurt your internet feelings with my response and you want to be a arrogant and make it bigger then what its actually... its a forum dude you not gonna like everyone and I didn't come to gotwoot to win hearts just state facts ... I hope you have a better day and happy new year try to relax do some yoga i heard its relaxing you need some soothing
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    So i went from trolling to upset, my feelings are hurt, i`m arrogant and i need to relax, speaking of assumptions... Damn man, you know so much about me.

    Yeah you`re a big boy alright, i want to be just like you when i grow up.

    How about this, let`s stop going off topic, i`ll stop arguing this entirely, if you have anything to say feel free to send me a message so i can give my ignore option some use, or you can keep arguing here and show us what a beacon of overwhelming maturity you are to all of us.

    On topic: Was the gollum on the prequel book or was he added because of his popularity?, i heard this movie used some 48 fps thing and i heard some complains about it but i didn`t even noticed, did anyone else had issues with it?
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    Gollum was the 2nd biggest character of the Hobbit book. Some would say he was the biggest because Bilbo fades into obscurity in the trilogy.


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    That`s cool, more Gollum is always appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    So i went from trolling to upset, my feelings are hurt, i`m arrogant and i need to relax, speaking of assumptions... Damn man, you know so much about me.

    Yeah you`re a big boy alright, i want to be just like you when i grow up.

    How about this, let`s stop going off topic, i`ll stop arguing this entirely, if you have anything to say feel free to send me a message so i can give my ignore option some use, or you can keep arguing here and show us what a beacon of overwhelming maturity you are to all of us.

    On topic: Was the gollum on the prequel book or was he added because of his popularity?, i heard this movie used some 48 fps thing and i heard some complains about it but i didn`t even noticed, did anyone else had issues with it?
    I was never arguing per say just stating facts.... when your older you see life differently ... Not everything is an argument...sometimes just a simple debate trollmaster...moving along to more important discussion gollum is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paper mache View Post
    I couldn't say it better myself....
    I laughed.

    Cuz tru.



    Anyway I liked this one... never been a huge fan of LOTR but always enjoyed it for the most part. Honestly I think I enjoyed this one more than the first LOTR. Prolly because Martin Freeman > Elijah Wood.... tho I like em both. I don't know I'd have to watch LOTR again its been such a while but just the whole backstory about the Dwarves, the Heart of the Mountain, the dragon, Thorin Oakenshield how he got his name... etc.... theres just a lot of interesting mythology but most of all the way in which its laid upon you. That could not have been if this was simply 2 movies.

    In LOTR I always felt like I understood the backstory, but still I was left feeling empty about it. This was either a much more enticing story, or like I said it was just the way it was told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    That`s cool, more Gollum is always appreciated.
    I have read the book a few times, over the years, counting both in English and Finnish, and "Riddles in the Dark" is the only chapter name that stuck in my mind. And that's good ol' Gollum's chapter.

    Still, in my opinion Gollum is not so uber important as a character but as a living example of the utter corruption the Ring causes. That was of much lesser importance in the Hobbit than it was in the LotR, where Frodo needed to stare at the wretched creature for most of the journey, seeing his own fate in its miserable form, should his will fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu View Post
    In LOTR I always felt like I understood the backstory, but still I was left feeling empty about it. This was either a much more enticing story, or like I said it was just the way it was told.
    Has Peter Jackson ever explained why they decided to make the prequel movie after the main trilogy? I think it was a mistake, though the trilogy did great anyway. It could have been that much better if people understood the back story and origins of everything from the Hobbit, instead of the 10-20 min quick explanation from the first trilogy movie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    I have read the book a few times, over the years, counting both in English and Finnish, and "Riddles in the Dark" is the only chapter name that stuck in my mind. And that's good ol' Gollum's chapter.

    Still, in my opinion Gollum is not so uber important as a character but as a living example of the utter corruption the Ring causes. That was of much lesser importance in the Hobbit than it was in the LotR, where Frodo needed to stare at the wretched creature for most of the journey, seeing his own fate in its miserable form, should his will fail.
    Same here, the riddles chapter is what I remember best from the Hobbit, followed by Bilbo being roused from his quiet life and thrust into a quest to save the world. But I think you proved it yourself, Gollum is an important character because he is everything that Bilbo/Frodo are not and must avoid becoming. They have their main mission, but more importantly they are on a mission of self-discovery, the failure of which is exemplified by Gollum.


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    Has anyone seen desolation yet? I freaking loved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    Has anyone seen desolation yet? I freaking loved it.

    Saw The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug HFR IMAX 3D,

    Right of the bat I'll say that I really enjoyed this.
    As mentioned, I saw this in HFR, and while I had to get used to the framerate for the first 30 minutes again, this is seriously the only way to watch the movie; the general smoothness and blur free action setpieces just adds so much to the experience, especially in 3D.

    The perfect example of this was a rather excellent "barrel" sequence partway through; the choreography during this scene made it both silly and totally awesome at the same time while the HFR made it look silky smooth.
    Also when they finally get to the titular dragon, everything is just pure eyecandy.

    Speaking of Smaug, all the performances were spot on again; the main cast was as strong as before and the wood elves and humans are a very welcome addition, Thranduil being close to the best one, if it wasn't for Smaug.
    Not only is the dragon just a visual treat, his personality and voice just perfect his onscreen presence; the entire sequence of Bilbo and Smaug interacting is fantastic.

    Now even though the movie's colossal length of 161 minutes didn't feel like a drag at all, the actual pacing could've been better; at a certain point there is just a bit too much jumping between characters.
    Also the way it ends might leave people a bit miffed, though personally I really liked it; Cumberbatch's delivery of Smaug's last line was just great.

    I realise there are people that really disapprove of the Hobbit movies (for some reason) and even go as far as not even watching them, I say give them a chance.
    In part because we get a lot of good (and bad) sci-fi, but good fantasy seems to be few and far between.

    So go check this out, and definitely watch it in HFR, it smooths out the experience and there is no way to ever watch it like that at home.
    I'll definitely go see this again ;D.
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    Yeah, I liked it as well, additions included, just like the first movie. This was somewhat more steady ride than the first as well, with the giants and singing goblins missing. More similar to the LotR movies with the more down to earth atmosphere. Naturally all of it looked splendid, as expected.

    Smaug was certainly one of the most devastating dragons ever depicted in a movie. I was very happy with him, save one thing: I didn't like his voice. There was nothing wrong with the lines, but the tone wasn't evil enough. He sounded like some gentlemanly villain, not like a huge, pillaging dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Smaug was certainly one of the most devastating dragons ever depicted in a movie. I was very happy with him, save one thing: I didn't like his voice. There was nothing wrong with the lines, but the tone wasn't evil enough. He sounded like some gentlemanly villain, not like a huge, pillaging dragon.
    You nailed it, Smaug is voiced by just such a person, a gentlemanly villain. It's the same manner as Khan from ST:Into Darkness. Though what kind of voice would you expect from a dragon? Something more whiny and snake-like? I've always preferred the depiction of dragons as cultured, wise, and noble, even if used for "evil" purposes. A deep, rumbling voice suits them more.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    No, not such a big difference. Just a small one. I liked the dragon voices in Skyrim more, for example, and they aren't so different (certainly not whiny and hissing like snakes), but there is some small difference, even if I can't describe it.

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