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This episode is made of 100% win.
Wax Robot Luffy. Hilarious.
Mr. 3 getting some props, cool.
Jinbei in the water, with Water Kamehameha, pure awesomeness.
Crocodile and Mr. 1 looking all "we're gonna rape a boat full of marines", so pimp.
I did have one thought though while watching this episode. A bunch of the guards have been armed with guns that shoot Sea Stone nets. Didn't it occur to anyone to pick up one of these guns and use it on Magellan?
Definitely a dope episode. Jimbei shows why he's a schichibukai. Buggy looks like a chump next to Crocodile and Mr. 1. Mr. 3's ability was hinted at during an earlier filler clip with him and Buggy and the poison wall, but its nice to see him finally prove himself with his ability.
The bullets passing through Magellan was BS, though. If those couldn't phase him, then how come Luffy's punches did during their first fight? Is Magellan supposed to be weak to rubber the same way Enel was? Stupid filler snippet that contradicts the limits of Magellan's power.
@DarthEnder: Isn't it obvious? Only the antagonists use kairoseki!
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Bullets passed through him? I thought they were just doing nothing or bouncing off, due to his bulk or something.
Luffy should still be able to fight better against Magellan. After all, when you want to handle potent chemicals, you wear rubber gloves. It seems to me like Magellan is getting a lot more out of his paramecia than Luffy, who should possess a natural resistance to poisons.
His poison is strong enough to melt rocks...Originally Posted by Kraco
You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful. -Marie Curie
They've already pretty much confirmed at this point that Luffy's punches use Ambition. Or at least, that's what Blackbeard said when Luffy hit him. And since we know Ambition can hit Logia users it makes sense that Luffy can punch Magellan.
Except for Smoker and Crocodile? Or are we to believe things have changed since then?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
...Magellan isn't a logia.
That was many arcs ago, so yes, I'm assuming it has changed since they've introduced Ambition. Blackbeard even said his Ambition has gotten stronger, which means it wasn't the last time they met.
Since when? His body turns completely to poison. Since when can non-Logia's do that?
And even if he wasn't, Ambition is basically spirit energy. No matter what reason a person isn't solid, if they have a spirit, than an Ambition punch should hurt them.
I don't think they have shown his body turning into poison. I used to think the hydra indicated such but looking carefully at those scenes, they just cover his hands, not are his hands. Besides, he had some blood trickling down his face after one of the major attacks.
But above all if he was logia, he wouldn't really have this much trouble with the escaping prisoners.
Having ambition isn't the same as being able to concentrate ambition into an attack that negates devils fruit abilities.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
The thing with the bullets bugged me too. The only explanation that makes sense is that the bullets are melting the instant they touch the poison.
Magellan does with Poison the same thing that Mr. 3 does with Wax.
Why do you think Haki negates Devil's Fruit abilities? They haven't said anything like that.
The only thing that "negates" fruit abilities is Sea Stone, the Darkness Fruit, and weaknesses of specific fruits to specific materials.
Raleigh's Haki didn't suddenly "negate" any of Kizaru's powers. Kizaru's light sword didn't suddenly vanish when Raleigh made contact with him.
When a Haki attack hits a Logia user, it works, because the fruit makes their body invincible, not their spirit.
In the same vein, if Flamingo used his powers on a Logia user, they would work, because the fruit makes their body invincible, not their mind.
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Tue, 05-04-2010 at 11:09 PM.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but do you have any idea what Don Flamingo's Devil Fruit power actually is? Since I sure don't know.
Anyway, the mechanics of Haki vs Logia stuff hasn't been explained. Hopefully it will be explained to some extent in the future.
The couple of times we have seen Flamingo, his power has been to take over somebody's body movements. Some sort of marionette power. I doubt there's much more to it.
We will most likely learn more of Haki when the Straw hats star to learn to use their considerable willpowers. I hope we won't learn anything more before as explanations integrated in the story are much better than external explanations.
I just assumed it was mind control. Though it could be something like invisible strings or bone control or something crazy like that.
So the cut on Kizaru's cheek was from Raleigh cutting his spirit, then?
You're totally pulling that presumption out of your ass. When Sentoumaru used a haki punch on Luffy, he reacted the same way as when Blackbeard vortex punched Luffy. Both times he observed the pain of the impact as if he suddenly lost his rubberness.
Another comparison: You point out that Raleigh's sword did not dissolve Kizaru's light sword, however just the same, Blackbeard's darkness didn't dissolve Ace's fireballs.
I'm yet to see an example where darkness or kairoseki clearly affects an opponent differently than haki.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
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