Game: Marvel vs. Capcom 3

[Psyke]

Don't get me wrong, I definitely agree with your points, granted that it's true that new material is being created or enhanced. DLC is definitely a good thing to have.

My earlier posts were specifically aimed at games which releases content based on purchases or being time sensitive when they are already on the disc. For example, in the original Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm, the support characters were evidently inside since the CPU gets to use it. For us, the consumers, we had to wait months to use it. By the time the 1st and 2nd Hokages were available to people who didn't pre-order (or like me, outside the US), I've already moved on to other games by then.

On the other side, DLC for games such as RE5 or SSFIV were excellent. New costumes and modes, definitely increases the replayability of the games.

So, just to conclude, I'm all for DLC which is developed post launch, but not for stuff already on the disc.

[darkshadow]

I completely agree with Ryll, and his post is actually what I wanted to type up, but I just thought forget it.

DLC "developed" post launch is a misleading term, because how do you know has consumer that it was actually developed post launch?
The DLC for UNS was different, because it was used to artifically lengthen the game. Hence the DLC also costing nothing.

But as Ryll said, just because the DLC is on the disc, doesn't mean it's part of the main development scope.
When stuff goes into testing the artists move on to different things like a new project or supporting the current project with add-on material.
So again just because it is on the disc, doesn't mean it is part of the project that turns into the product that consumers will buy.

So even if at one point the development of main project and add-on material starts to run parallel, it doesn't mean that you as consumer are entitled to anything other than content from the main project. If you don't like it then don't buy it, but don't feel entitled to it just because they put it on the disc for everyone's convenience.

Here is a very basic outline of the process to illustrate it a bit better.
Main project:
code > working on prototype
art > working on artstyle
art/code > working on alpha
art/code/sound > working on milestones
art/code/sound > working on beta
code > big testing phase
art/sound > starts on supplemental project
art/code/sound > working on gmc (gold)
code > big testing phase
art/sound > continue work on supplemental project

final: main project done 100%, supplemental project done 25%
In the case of MVC3, that 25% would be Jill and Shuma, and are included on disc.

Heck sometimes deadlines can only be made if some stuff gets cut out, even if some of the assets are already done. Just like DeeJay and Thawk were cut out of SF4.

I'm just glad this game will at least have DLC support.

[Marik]

Some information and pics of license cards and character challenges.

Marvel Vs. Capcom 3: Of Modes and License Cards

[Marik]

They are continuing with the two new characters a month plan. Last month it was She-Hulk and Zero, this month it’s Storm & C. Viper.

Storm Character Reveal

C. Viper Character Reveal

Storm & C. Viper Gameplay 1

Storm & C. Viper Gameplay 2

[darkshadow]

Yeah I saw this earlier, was waiting for you to post it ;P.
I think viper fits really well to be honest, she seems like a combo machine, even more so than chun/morrigan/felicia.

And storm looks as powerful as ever, probably not as broken as in mvc2 though, but she still has a LOT of option in any range.

[Ryllharu]

I think viper fits really well to be honest, she seems like a combo machine, even more so than chun/morrigan/felicia.

Yeah, she felt slow, unwieldy, and awkward (still my favorite though :3) in SFIV, though most of that is because SFIV plays so awkwardly with her kind of character, and she obviously wasn't perfected before release. The video made it feel like this was how C.Viper was supposed to play. She'll definitely make it into my rotation.

Storm still looks cheap. I was hoping Marvel would use fewer X-men...they have so many other good franchises.

[Marik]

I found a couple of the Q&A notes interesting.

• The Thing was considered at one point, but they felt he would be too similar to Hulk.

• Human Torch was a completed character, but he ate up too much RAM and had to be taken out.

• Marvel suggested Super-Skrull as a Human Torch replacement.

• To balance the roster out, Niitsuma wanted to include a young Marvel female, and ultimately X-23 was decided on.

• Niitsuma intentionally held off Spider-Man's announcement until the Tokyo Game Show because he is a popular character in Japan.

• Marvel was reluctant to grant permission to include Shuma-Gorath, but Capcom convinced them that he is popular and an important part of the series history.

• Shuma-Gorath was the first Marvel character that Capcom proposed to Marvel — and he may have originally been planned as an on-disc character.

• Felicia has yet to appear in an official English language gameplay video because of the ESRB.

[Marik]

Marvel vs. Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds - Episode 3 Trailer (US Version)

[darkshadow]

X-23 ♥, I lol'ed when hulk just punched modok out of the screen.
Though this made me wonder, are there 3 factions now, cause mags and wesker are obviously not friendly >_>.

[Marik]

X-23 ♥

Indeed. She's going to be the first character I choose. Seems that Hulk ♥'s her as well. I could do without MODOK. He doesn't interest me at all. I'd like to hear the reasoning behind his selection.

[Marik]

M v C 3 Special Holiday Trailer

[Marik]

Found this on SRK. The character select screen from the Storm/Viper build.

The same article has an almost complete list of Assit Moves with spoiler tags.

[Psyke]

So we're expecting at least 12 more characters? p

[Marik]

So we're expecting at least 12 more characters? p

I'm only expecting six more to be added to that screen. Jill, Shuma-Gorath, two new chars revealed in January, and two more revealed in February, for a total of 36.

The current screen has five rows with six characters in each row for a total of 30. I'm expecting the final screen to be similar with a sixth row that contains the last six chars.

[Marik]

Marvel vs Capcom 3 Secret Event in Vegas on Jan 6th

We should be seeing videos of the new characters soon.

[Marik]

Phoenix Reveal Trailer

Haggar Reveal Trailer

Edit: Going by Lupinko's post, these are the characters that are left. Akuma and Hsien-ko from the Capcom side and Taskmaster, Sentinel, and Galactus (Boss) from the Marvel side.

[darkshadow]

Phoenix looks totally beastly, that resurrection is badass, though she seems like she will play like wesker, good thing, now I can at least switch her up with wesker or use her as base for a different team.

edit:
That resurrection is just so fucking badass lol. She seems to have really low stamina to compensate for her awesomeness though.

[Marik]

Previews

Joystiq: Marvel vs Capcom 3 preview: Crossover chaos

IGN: Simplifying Marvel vs. Capcom 3

GameSpot: Marvel vs. Capcom 3 - New Character Roundup

Destructoid: Marvel vs. Capcom 3 extravaplosion!

MSXbox-World: Marvel vs Capcom 3: Fate of Two Worlds Preview

MSXbox-World: Alternate Costume Color Screens

Videos

Captain America, Iron Man and More

Viewtiful Joe is not Charmed by Felicia

Wolverine and Amaterasu Double-Team Spencer

Tron Bonne Punches Arthur Out of His Shirt

X-23 and her Crew Take on M.O.D.O.K.

gameplay montage #1

gameplay montage #2

gameplay montage #3

gameplay montage #4

[UChessmaster]

I`m still waiting on that Megaman confirmation.

[Marik]

Phoenix and Haggar Gameplay 1 - 2:37
Phoenix and Haggar Gameplay 2 - 2:44
All Level 3 Hypers - 4:38

USA Today Game Hunters Blog: Some thoughts on the new fighters
VideoGamer: Hands-on Preview
RipTen's Simple Mode Impressions