I'm pretty sure Togame plans on keeping Shichika to herself, as evident from her actions when he was with Zanki. Also, the wielder does not necessarily need to be willing to do anything to keep the blade to be "poisoned". Zanki fought on equal terms with Shichika even if it put her on a definite path to losing. She even let go of the sword willingly after admitting defeat herself. Konayuki let go of her sword too.Originally Posted by Archangel
Peace.
Well that's the only part i have a problem with, i more or less agree with the rest
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Needless to say, the whole lethargy of the Houou fight was wiped from the mind with this ending. Nothing less from Katanagatari - even though I'd have been expecting something like that even without the ominous words by the narrator before they went to the village. Although it's pretty hard to judge this series in the sense of trying to predict whether Togama dies or not. I'd say not, but you never know.
I wonder how many seconds Emonzaemon will live from the beginning of the last episode.
I liked the reverse engineering trick they pulled at the end. It explains these swords' powers well enough, and even makes Emonzaemon's pistols believable in such an era in order to slot these adventures in as a "forgotten history". (I'm pretty sure I heard cannon sounds in the background from the 700-years-ago flashback though).
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Sengoku era was around 1400-1600, or so. The Japanese already had the firearms the always helpful Europeans had brought them.
I've been expecting her to be shot (by Hitei though, not Enmonzaemon) since the Entou first appeared in Hitei's possession. Shichika should be able to easily beat most of his opponents having come this far, so what better way to counter him than to strike at his vulnerable master? Togame is really the only sword user in Japan who fights separated from her weapon. She has no defenses. Hitei comes off to me as liking to believe she can defeat Togame on a mental/political level, but who would resort to nefarious use of force the second she starts to feel she's losing. That said, from Pengin voicing the Maniwani's general fears about her, Togame is not a whole lot different.
Especially against a weapon like Entou, Shichika cannot defend Togame. He is quick enough to get in the way of any sword users, and there was only that close call in the desert once. I've actually been impressed that no one has gone after her so directly thus far. I suppose most Deviant Blade holders had their pride. Enmonzaemon (un)surprisingly does not. He follows Hitei's every command.
Though, from another point of view, Enmonzaemon is merely deftly dodging Togame's blade and cutting her, same as in any sword fight.
Epic episode, but i surely hope Emozaemon has a good reason for striking Togame first and Shichika second
I mean really, why on earth would an assasin show his attack to his target before killing him? Especially when the target is the world's strongest swordsman.
I could think of two reasons:
- Hitei has always viewed Togame as the bigger threat, and she's right. Shichika can't win without Togame wielding him (thinking for him). They jokingly discussed that her schemes usually resulted in him just using brute force anyway, but that really oversimplifies her involvement in obtaining the swords. If brute force or skill alone could take the blades, Sabi Hakuhei or the Maniwani would have already had the blades. She has always been Hitei's only true enemy.
- Hitei wants to collect all the Deviant Blades. Say that she knows about Kyotoryuu as well as its current status as a blade, and figures she needs to "take" Shichika from Togame, but only after it has been completed, which it finally did. She indeed had a line about telling who I can only assume Enmonzaemon to, "go finish off the last of your duties, at least," and "at least die beautifully for me." The only other possibility is Houou, but seeing as she was looking at the letter/report, I doubt it.
Your first reason is retarded beyond reasoning but i can get behind number 2, though for all of Togame's praise on how cunning princess Hitei is i find it quite foolish of her to believe she can tame Shichika for herself.
"Retarded beyond reasoning"?
Care to back that statement with reasons why? If you're trying to defend not giving counterpoints by the "beyond reasoning" part, it makes it look like you just didn't understand it.
Hitei and Togame play games that transcend brute force. They have been this entire time. Togame has been making her moves since before the series started. She made a crucial one tracking down Kyotoryuu to take out her previous mercenaries and seducing him into loyalty. Their goals have been clarified a bit by the soothsayer conversation and the ties with her father's dying words. The Maniwani back it up by being afraid of Togame. How is that "retarded"?
Because even if you kill its master a wild dog will still bite your neck clean off
What exactly would be Togame's strategy when facing a three-feet-away gun wielding Enmonzaemon on her own?
Because both she and Hitei never fight their own battles. They use proxies. Only now Hitei has done something to prove she's inferior in intellect. She's had Togame plainly assassinated.
I guess you could also argue she's finishing up her plan, but it would have been more satisfying to her to drive Togame into ruin (financial, politically, influentially) first.
After reading Ryll's post, and thinking back to the letter scene, it seems reasonable Hitei ordered Emonzaemon to kill Togame right in front of Shichika. And then face the obvious consequences. Emonzaemon is quite her man to follow such an order to the letter.
What exactly Hitei is planning, though, is another question. I agree with Archie on it hardly giving her a chance to win Shichika over.
But Shichika is stupid. All she'd have to do is declare that Enmozaemon acted on his own. He can't argue, he'd be dead. Shichika would probably believe her. He'd still be very angry, but I can't see him thinking straight after seeing Togame get shot.
Shichika could barely follow the catty interaction between Hitei and Togame back in episode 8. While I agree it is considerably unlikely, if anyone could confuse and seduce Shichika after Togame is dead, it would be Hitei. She's just that evil.
Even Shichika should have wits enough to know Togame and Hitei are enemies. Emon was Hitei's direct subordinate so anybody would be suspicious, even Shichika. Even if Hitei somehow convinced him Emon was acting on his own, it would still be worlds apart from her getting anywhere close to him. Besides, if Togame dies, I'm not sure he would have any interest in getting close to anybody for the time being. Nor how much the wisdom would there be in anybody trying to get close to him...
I think they shot Togame thinking that a sword that has lost its wielder will become useless. Shichika never fought for himself, only for Togame, just like any other weapon.
Unfortunately for Emon and Hitei, killing Togame "completed" the 13th deviant blade, which I believe means that it can now act on its own will, even without a wielder.
Peace.
I think that hits the mark. Considering how Shikizaki's previous blades were perfect, but never complete, it only makes sense that a completed sword will be the best because having a wielder unable to realise its true power isn't an issue - that it can act on its own.
I never thought of that as being why Kyotouryu was considered the (would be) completed blade.
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So how much time does Emonzaemon have left to live? In milliseconds please.
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I sure as hell hope that doesn't happen.
If Emon goes down just like that, what's Shichika going to beat up for half an hour? Hitei?
It's the final episode, we need a boss(and that missing fight with Japan's Strongest Swordsman on BD)
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