Movie: The Amazing Spider-Man

[UChessmaster]

You seem oddly obsessed with the proper depiction and elaboration of what amounts to side characters in a movie. Of course they can't devote too much screen time to developing MJ. Not only do most viewers not care, but in the original comics she wasn't this amazing character that would justify elaborating on in a movie. She was Peter's love interest, the "it" girl he wanted but couldn't have. Her role was to show Peter's inadequacy and inferiority that he spends the rest of his life trying to resolve.

GG had about as much motivation and development as the Lizard, but somehow the Lizard is held up to be some iconic villain? Why the double standard? And the crappy GG suit isn't any worse than the crappy CGI Lizard.

The fact that you downplay the change from outcast nerd to hipster is about all the evidence needed we'll never see eye to eye on this. Like I said before, you subscribe to a revamped Peter that Marvel changed for a new audience, and that's tragic. He's no longer the underdog loser nerd who rises above expectations and shows kids what they can be. The lessons to treat power with respect and responsibility are gone. Even Captain America included that as a central character and plot point. But Amazing Spider-man is just some cool kid who got his new iPhone 5 and lookit what he can do with it! I see how that appeals to today's youth.

I repeat it because you continue to not acknowledge how important those elements are to the character and how their omission or change in the Amazing movie is much more significant than changes to MJ or GG. Of course, you don't feel that way because your Spider-man is a modern bastardization that downplays the significance of those elements.

My spider-man? stop being so pretentious, i`ve read each and every amazing issues and more issues you could ever dream of. You don`t care about MJ, and shrug her off as a secondary character while announcing J fucking Jameson needs an award? ok.

The Lizard had a plan, i`m not going to explain it though, i`m sure you can remember what it was.

Ugh, you know what? fuck this, i`m going to take DS`s advice.

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

You seem oddly obsessed with the proper depiction and elaboration of what amounts to side characters in a movie. Of course they can't devote too much screen time to developing MJ. Not only do most viewers not care, but in the original comics she wasn't this amazing character that would justify elaborating on in a movie. She was Peter's love interest, the "it" girl he wanted but couldn't have. Her role was to show Peter's inadequacy and inferiority that he spends the rest of his life trying to resolve.

GG had about as much motivation and development as the Lizard, but somehow the Lizard is held up to be some iconic villain? Why the double standard? And the crappy GG suit isn't any worse than the crappy CGI Lizard.

The fact that you downplay the change from outcast nerd to hipster is about all the evidence needed we'll never see eye to eye on this. Like I said before, you subscribe to a revamped Peter that Marvel changed for a new audience, and that's tragic. He's no longer the underdog loser nerd who rises above expectations and shows kids what they can be. The lessons to treat power with respect and responsibility are gone. Even Captain America included that as a central character and plot point. But Amazing Spider-man is just some cool kid who got his new iPhone 5 and lookit what he can do with it! I see how that appeals to today's youth.

I repeat it because you continue to not acknowledge how important those elements are to the character and how their omission or change in the Amazing movie is much more significant than changes to MJ or GG. Of course, you don't feel that way because your Spider-man is a modern bastardization that downplays the significance of those elements.

I'm sorry to get back into this again but I'm only gonna say this stuff one last time......

First off I'm starting to get the feel that Animeniax's Spiderman was the one written by Stan Lee. Thats the only explanation I can come up with. If I had to make an educated guess I'd say in those early, early, ancient, issues Maryjane and GreenGoblin were less essential to the comic.

Okay jumping around a bit here.... You said that updating Parker from "outcast nerd" to "hipster" is what proves Amazing isn't true to its source material. Well my friend ya see in TODAYS WORLD someone who spends most of their time on their computer, building intrinsic gadgetry, skateboarding by themselves, and NOT HAVING ANY FRIENDS AT HIGHSCHOOL... is the definition of an outcaste nerd. Simply because he has a decent style of clothing and has an iphone doesn't make him any less an outcast.
Case closed.



Oh and...

You don`t care about MJ, and shrug her off as a secondary character while announcing J fucking Jameson needs an award? ok.

lmao

[Ryllharu]

Ani's source on Spiderman is the 90s cartoon. He's never touched a Spiderman comic book.

While a quality cartoon, even I knew it wasn't canon while it was originally airing. A fair amount was sanitized for the Fox audience Saturday mornings. Dunst's Mary Jane is far more like the cartoon's.

[Animeniax]

My spider-man? stop being so pretentious, i`ve read each and every amazing issues and more issues you could ever dream of. You don`t care about MJ, and shrug her off as a secondary character while announcing J fucking Jameson needs an award? ok.

The Lizard had a plan, i`m not going to explain it though, i`m sure you can remember what it was.

Clearly then you know there's a difference between the original Spider-man portrayed by the Raimi movie and the modern one portrayed in the Amazing movie. Isn't the modern one also Hispanic/black mix or is that yet another revision of the comic character? I'm still stuck on how you can hold changes to MJ and GG as more damning than changes to the core character. If the Lizard had a master plan, then so did GG. And JK Simmons portrayal of JJJ deserves an award, even if the character itself isn't so vital.

Ugh, you know what? fuck this, i`m going to take DS`s advice.

That's fine, I was already finished discussing this until you brought up MJ again. Though shouldn't you just call people you don't agree with fucking idiots and racists and then storm off in a tantrum?

[darkshadow]

Hahaha a tantrum?
Don't mistake me saying something like "go die in a fire you sack of shit" as me harboring any sort of animosity towards you, it's just something a terrible human being deserves, being you or anyone else, hypothetically.

Oh and for the 50 billionth time as stated in this fucking thread by everyone:

the original Spider-man portrayed by the Raimi movie

Raimi's movie didn't portray the original spiderman you terrible human being.

[Animeniax]

Yep, a tantrum, like little kids do when they don't get their way. In your case, it's when you lose arguments. I love imagining you punching one of your action figured in frustration every time we chat.

You can dither on things the first movie did incorrectly in their portrayal of Peter, like not directly making him intelligent by making little doo-dads and using biological web shooters instead of mechanical, but the original movie got more things right than wrong, especially the core elements of his character and drive. The Amazing movie did other things to represent a new Peter, which isn't really Peter at all, but the movie did a lot of things poorly which a lot of you seem to gloss over in its defense.

[Animeniax]

So I found this website http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=39377 about the varying ways that Spider-man's origin has been handled/retold over time and in different mediums. While Raimi's isn't exactly the same as Ditko/Lee, it's a shitload closer than Webb's and keeps the key traits and events intact.

[Kagemane_no_Jutsu]

How original of you! How do uchess's teets taste?
Stay on topic or they'll lock this thread.

Oh cmon! Thats funny... it meant no harm.

Yeah idk bout that link you posted.... if I were Sam Raimi I'd not only be posting on message boards but also writing articles as well.

[Animeniax]

Yeah idk bout that link you posted.... if I were Sam Raimi I'd not only be posting on message boards but also writing articles as well.

Not sure why you're disputing the material in the article. The writer has some credentials and is knowledgeable about Spider-man. He doesn't show any particular bias or preference for any of the origin stories, just lists them.

[Sapphire]

Have some "leaked" spiderman 2 footage from comic-con!

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