Yikes, the Vulture as a movie villain? I hadn't considered it, but Spider-man had some of the crappiest villains to deal with. To think, if Sony hadn't shoe-horned Venom into the third movie, they could have had a blockbuster fourth movie.
Yikes, the Vulture as a movie villain? I hadn't considered it, but Spider-man had some of the crappiest villains to deal with. To think, if Sony hadn't shoe-horned Venom into the third movie, they could have had a blockbuster fourth movie.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Finally got around to watch it. Some parts better than Sam Rileys' trilogy, and some parts worse. Still, a good movie.
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I liked the UncleBen murder in this film more than the classical one, less complicated and more 'realistic' (something that could happen), so it does make for better Drama. I heard some people compare it to Batman, but I didn't feel it.
Emma stone is amazing, even if her character is tangled in every existing plot of the movie, and BullyFlash does work, (basketball-dunking Peter is a bit too much, though).
I'm not a fan of the recent spiderman habit of having every single villain belong to Osborn. I see that they want to establish a 'big' villain, but I think it diminishes every badguy beneath him, and makes oscorp look like a company that solely hires crazy obsessed scientists.
The evil plot of "turn new-york to lizards" looked so much like Batman Begins "fear gas!" and Sherlock Holmes "Whatever-thing", it's getting old.
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Currently Watching: probably a show directed at 9 years old girls, lets be honest.
You know the important distinction between Batman and me? Batman is fictional. In real life, there isn't always an alternative.
I guess you mean Peter's involvement in Uncle Ben's death being simpler, because the actual death of Uncle Ben is less realistic. In the Amazing origin, Uncle Ben encounters the criminal walking down the street, sees his gun on the ground and goes for it... a 65ish year old man goes for a criminal's gun? Not likely. In the original, Uncle Ben is killed during a home robbery. In Raimi's origin version, Uncle Ben is car-jacked and killed. Which seems most realistic to you?
I agree, Emma Stone is amazing and does a great job in this movie (I wasn't that big a fan before).
And the Lizard's master plan was the biggest plot hole of the movie. Unless I missed the part where he improved the formula, the transformation doesn't occur instantly and it doesn't last. But once he sprays some cops, they instantly begin transforming into lizards. And so much for a master plan, the transformation doesn't last.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
People are talking about Elektro being a villain in the next installment. I always liked him on the cartoon in the 90s, he stood out pretty well amongst the litany of spidey villains.
What do you guys think of it?
I think i want a film with a decent Venom, and if i can't get that i want Carnage.
Electro was an awesome villain in the original Spider-man cartoon. I don't know if he's well known enough or has an interesting enough backstory to be a movie villain, which might be ok since then they can create his background without pissing off fans of the original.
But yeah, Venom done correctly would be the best villain for a new Spider-man movie.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I hope you're not talking about the 60s series, where he was a joke, like most of the villains on that show.Originally Posted by Animeniax
I assume you mean the 90s version (very much not the "original" cartoon), where he is a disciple/son of the Red Skull, and a completely different character (in other words, not Max Dillon) with the same appearance as the original.
A bit different and quite a bit more sinister, agreed. But I found him to be very whiny and immature for a German/Russian spy...or whatever he was supposed to be.
The actual Electro appears in the comics and all other versions of the cartoon. Far more mundane origins the majority of the time.
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Found the episode! (starting at 10:58)
http://marvel.com/videos/watch/604/s...967_episode_02
Last edited by Ryllharu; Thu, 11-08-2012 at 05:38 PM. Reason: for clarity
I doubt anyone knew there was a 60s cartoon until you researched it. But yeah, I meant the 90s cartoon that was popular and made Spider-man more popular. Electro was good in that, from the vague recollections I have about the series from 20 years ago. If I watched it now, I'd probably not like it as much. Still, I don't think he'd make a good villain for a movie.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Researched it?
It aired multiple times on US cable channels. I watched numerous episodes then. That's how I knew about it in the first place. Same as Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends (1981) which has been on for numerous years. Firestar ftw. So even if I had never known about the campy trash 60s one, I certainly would have known about the 80s version.
Even for you, this was a piss poor attempt to save a little face.
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To give you the benefit of the doubt, I researched your claim just now. Turns out you were right. In fact, no one has ever heard of 60s spiderman before I just revealed its existence.
Last edited by Ryllharu; Thu, 11-08-2012 at 08:59 PM. Reason: edit1: Firestar ftw. edit2: I actually did *not* know it was a popular meme source.
Hahahahahahahahaha, it's just stunning how you can never produce a single good post.
@Ryllharu: There you go again, reading too much into statements and getting butthurt over them. When I said "researched" of course I just meant "looked it up," which is fair enough considering the advent of wikipedia. When I said original, I meant original for me (and most anyone born after 1980) which would certainly not be the 1960s series. And when I said "no one knew about the 1960s series," of course you took that to mean no one in the history of man knows about it, when obviously I meant no one on this forum.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Oh yeah, the existence of a meme based on an image from the 1960s show obviously means the 17 year old who created it knew about the show and watched every episode of it. Or... he did an image search, found a goofy image of Spider-man he could use in a meme, and rolled with it. You proved me wrong yet again, Watson!
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I was born in 1981 and used to regularly watch that "acid trip" 60s Spider-Man cartoon when I was a kid, like 5 or 6 years old.
They show the 60s Spiderman up here in Canada on Teletoon Retro every night.
You mean to say you have never seen this intro on TV before in its original form? If anything, I thought everyone knew about the 60s cartoon.
Last edited by Splash!; Fri, 11-09-2012 at 09:50 AM.
Yeah I've heard the song before, didn't know which series it was from.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Why is it so hard for you to say, "oh yeah i was wrong, my bad"?
It wasn't even an argument until you made it into one.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Because it was a little mistake that someone felt the need to blow out of proportion just to one-up me. You just as easily could have asked why he couldn't have ignored the error and made his point. Plus I like to argue. Plus do you really think it's that easy for someone to change their ways? I mean, it's been years and you still can't take a photo with a shirt on.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
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