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    I liked this better than the old Spider-Man movies. It's true this won't be winning any awards and there were certain flaws in it, especially in the script, but I liked the darker atmosphere (both literally and figuratively), which reminded me of the difference between the old and new Batman movies. One big thing for me personally is that I never much liked the old Spider-man nor his actor Maguire. This new Spider-man was kind of wilder, rougher, and was having more fun, and I had no such problems with this new actor, Garfield, either. The big bad villain was so laughable that this felt more like an introduction movie, though.

    Edit: Ryll made his post while I was idling, so I thought to note I watched this on purpose in 2D, and during the whole movie there were only a couple of scenes that I imagined would have been nice in 3D. I've grown kind of weary of the whole 3D craze and intend to watch only select movies in it, movies I imagine really benefit from it.

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    I always opt to watch movies in 3D even if by the end of it it's not worth it. I figure it would be my only opportunity to watch it that way. If the movie is good enough, I will always have the option to watch it in 2D later on.

    Anyways, will look forward to seeing this then.

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    I thought it was pretty bad to be honest. Certain parts of it felt very spiderman-esque, such as the quips during the fights, but by and large the transitions from scene to scene were done very poorly, and Andrew Garfield didn't make a very good Peter Parker. Sure Peter is supposed to be awkward, but Andrew just made it uncomfortable. Plus, the romance and death in the movie happened so quickly that it was hard to empathize with the characters. Overall I think the director tried to fit too much into the movie and the product just became a series of plot points, there wasn't a real flow to the film.


    I definitely enjoyed Spiderman 1 & 2 much better than this reboot. I really wish Marvel never sold the rights to Sony in the first place, it would have been amazing to see what they could do with their crown jewel considering how popular their Iron Man movies are.

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    I really liked this movie. Maybe it's because I loathed the earlier trilogy and thought both Tobey Maguire and Kirsten Dunst were terrible in them.
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    I posted this in the dark knight rises thread in response to some schmuck but I think its a bit more on topic here...

    the spidey movies (1-2 of course) were amazing to me in their day. But they just don't hold up after the allure of actual seeing spiderman in live action fades away. The costumes resemble power rangers, and everythings so brightly lit its as tho the entire world takes place 5 feet from the sun. Sam Raimi's direction wasn't terrible, at times I enjoyed it like when Doc Oc was ominously climbing Harry's building. But overall the directing was too over the top and encroaching on the rest of the elements. Its like he wanted it to be first and foremost a sam raimi film and THEN to be spiderman.

    Tobey was good for what he was told to do.... which was a fly on the wall shy dorky personality. Which wasn't terrible, but it isnt what you think of when you think spiderman. AND they spent way too much time on fucking mary jane watson. I love the way they put Gwen Stacey into the actual plot instead of just "get kidnapped, get saved, get kissed, fucking hell, really?"

    btw, who is Splash? Is that a name change or did you just stop posting here for a while?

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    Not sure what you think of when you think of Spiderman (prob the bulge in his pants), but the Maguire Parker was spot on. The Garfield version is the newer hipster version from the 2000s, which is not what or how Peter Parker is. I imagine he appeals more to hipsters like yourself, but that's another character. Hipster Parker is almost as bad as black Nick Fury.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Not sure what you think of when you think of Spiderman (prob the bulge in his pants), but the Maguire Parker was spot on.
    No, Peter was shy for about half a chapter before he got bit by the spider, afterwards he became more secure of himself and was showed to be funny/sarcastic. The Peter in the movie was stuck on personality 1 the WHOLE damn trilogy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    No, Peter was shy for about half a chapter before he got bit by the spider, afterwards he became more secure of himself and was showed to be funny/sarcastic. The Peter in the movie was stuck on personality 1 the WHOLE damn trilogy.
    Not in the original series and through the 1990s. He was more confident as Spiderman, hence the funny quips, but as Peter Parker he was still nerdy and awkward. And if you didn't see the subtle changes in his personality spanning the three movies, then you weren't paying attention (again, prob the bulge in spandex).

    You might as well complain that Bruce Wayne acts the same in all three new Batman movies.


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemane_no_Jutsu View Post
    btw, who is Splash? Is that a name change or did you just stop posting here for a while?
    Nope, no name change. Just a long time lurker and very rare poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Not in the original series and through the 1990s. He was more confident as Spiderman, hence the funny quips, but as Peter Parker he was still nerdy and awkward.
    Yeah, he was so awkward originally, that`s why he hanged out with the rich kid, the football star, the super model and the prom queen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    Yeah, he was so awkward originally, that`s why he hanged out with the rich kid, the football star, the super model and the prom queen.
    If you had read any of the original comics up through the early 90s-2000s, you'd know better. Since you haven't, it will be a waste of time to cite all the backstory that proves you wrong. So here are some synopses from wiki:

    "Peter Parker, a teenage high school student and person behind Spider-Man's secret identity to whose "self-obsessions with rejection, inadequacy, and loneliness" young readers could relate."

    "Over the years, the Peter Parker character has developed from shy, nerdy high school student to troubled but outgoing college student, to married high school teacher to, in the late 2000s, a single freelance photographer, his most typical adult role."

    "Despite his superpowers, Parker struggles to help his widowed aunt pay rent, is taunted by his peers—particularly football star Flash Thompson."

    Personality

    "As one contemporaneous journalist observed, "Spider-Man has a terrible identity problem, a marked inferiority complex, and a fear of women. He is anti-social, [sic] castration-ridden, racked with Oedipal guilt, and accident-prone ... [a] functioning neurotic". Agonizing over his choices, always attempting to do right, he is nonetheless viewed with suspicion by the authorities"


    For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?

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    Wow, you`re actually right, world`s end must be close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    Wow, you`re actually right, world`s end must be close.
    Way to take defeat like a man.


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    Credit where credit`s due.
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    I never had such problems with Spider-man's personality back in the days reading the comics (a long time ago), but even though Maguire's movies might have portrayed him somewhat correctly (more correctly than this new movie), I still hated Maguire's Spider-man, and no small thanks to the actor himself. Maybe I just didn't like the looks of his mug... The source faithfulness aside, I liked the energetic nature of the new one. In the end it would have been useless to make this movie if they had been too afraid to change a thing or two.

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    Not sure why the hate for Maguire. Did he play unlikeable characters in other movies? Is he a db irl?

    I think most detractors of the new movie feel it was useless to make this new movie. Too soon for a reboot and no point to it besides making some money.


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    Tobey was alright as parker, but he wasn't a great spiderman. Plus the suit was completely out of reach of what a highschool kid could make himself; that composite perfect webbing on the suit? C'mon...
    Even if amazing is buying his webfluid, him using natural webbing instead of webshooters was a slap in the face, almost as much as using the green goblin scenario for MJ instead of Gwen.
    I'm also sure amazing will start making his own eventually in the sequels.

    The previous trilogy was a mess lore wise, the only thing it got right was uncle ben.
    Amazing was infinitely better than the entire trilogy combined.
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    I love how people are giving Maguire shit for his Peter Parker act when Stan Lee himself said that he was the perfect choice to cast. And no, the pacing in Amazing was horrendous; Spiderman 1 & 2 were much, much better.

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    I put in doubt Stan Lee`s ability to properly cast someone. Spidey 2 was better? maybe, part 1? never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    I put in doubt Stan Lee`s ability to properly cast someone. Spidey 2 was better? maybe, part 1? never.
    You know, because your opinion of who reflects Peter Parker is much more critical than they guy who invented the character.

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