Naruto Shippuuden Episode 132

[Buffalobiian]

If that was all it was, his next line wouldn't have been "I have a plan, though its a gamble as well."

His gamble was regarding that each dude was a one-trick pony.

That's why he said it worked when the fat one started absorbing his technique.

[ASSpirine]

I hope it's not going to be a DBZ thing. Give too much power so that the opponent will "blow" up...
Probably he's turning into a complete toad or something

[lilphatboi88]

good episode, but im counting jiraiya out because I don't want to get my hopes up. No one in Naruto has died in a while...

[ASSpirine]

good episode, but im counting jiraiya out because I don't want to get my hopes up. No one in Naruto has died in a while...

Asuma wasn't that long ago. Oro also "died" at first.

[Azonalanthious]

His gamble was regarding that each dude was a one-trick pony.

That's why he said it worked when the fat one started absorbing his technique.

Really? Seriously? A "Leave me if you are going to die." "Why?" "I've got a plan." "What is it?" followed by a fade to black without us seeing the explanation? And you think that all this was to foreshadow something that happens 30 seconds later, where they didn't leave and weren't going to die, rather then something yet to come? The only thing I'll give you is he does say 'good the gamble worked' when the jutsu gets absorbed... but when describing the plan, the line was "its a gamble AS WELL", implying more then one. The frogs will leave his shoulders, probably next ep, and whatever happens THEN is what he was talking about.

[Buffalobiian]

HorribleSubs, starting @ 11:17

[Jiraiya]: Auditory sense? I see. That's why we retreated.

[Pa]: Correct...This genjutsu is powerful, but as soon as we make a sound, our whereabouts will be revealed, which is its weakness.

Also, there's the harmony of the sounds... In other words, the genjutsu is placed with a melody. It requires a little time before it takes effect. If they discover our whereabouts before they are caught in the genjutsu and attack, we will surely lose. However, once they are caught in the genjutsu, our victory will be assured. So the genjutsu is not guaranteed to work because we could get killed during casting. But if and when it does, we win. It's risky, but it may be our way out.

NOTE: WHAT'S THIS! A GAMBLE?!

Jiraiya stops running Hmm, let me think about how to make the plan work

What's wrong?

[Jiraiya]: If both your lives are ever in danger, I want you to free yourselves from my shoulders immediately.

[Pa]: Huh? Absolutely not! The fate of the ninja world depends on this battle!

[Jiraiya]: I have a plan. Although it is a gamble as well.... I have a plan that might make your strategy work, Pa. But I'm not certain it will work since it's just a theory of mine. If it doesn't work, we won't be able to hold them off. Your lives will be in danger then, so run.

NOTE: OH LOOK! ANOTHER GAMBLE?!



[Pa]: Do tell.

fade out to black

[Jiraiya]: Please begin.

[Pa/Ma]: Right!

~kero kero kero kero kero kero kero

(skip to 13:15)

[Fat clone]: turns around A shadow clone!

[Jiraiya]: Fire Style: Giant Flame Bombs. (fire effect) So that's your move.

Good! My gamble's a success!hmm, so my theory was right. Which gamble was this again? Oh, that's right, I only made one.

And you think that all this was to foreshadow something that happens 30 seconds later,

I've got a plan you old geezers, but since I'm going to execute it in 30 seconds anyway, I won't bother telling you. Just improvise with me why don't ya?

where they didn't leave

They have to sing somethere don't they? And if they can be found from the sound (because they're meant to be heard), it does it matter if they sing here or elsewhere?

and weren't going to die

Yeah, because they were so sure that they were all one trick ponies, so sure that a technique that gives away their location and is not immediately effective will work against the three guys they just had to run away from.


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PS: at least write something in your rep. It's supposed to be about constructive criticism you know.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm currently working under the assumption that all of Pain's bodies are already dead. And the 3 Jiraiya "killed" weren't ressurected, they just were able to move again once the swords were pulled out of them.

I say this because this is actually the second time they showed us this Jutsu of Pain's.

The first time was in the very beginning of Shippuuden. When Akatsuki was taking Gaara. Remember the jutsu where Pain was able to take two bodies, and give them all of the abilities and part of the chakra of Itachi and Kisame.

I think what he's doing now is similar. These are dead bodies that he's infused with the powers of other ninja.

I think this is what the Rinnegan's real power is. Allowing the user to control all these bodies at once and to use the powers of others through them.

[ASSpirine]

I'm currently working under the assumption that all of Pain's bodies are already dead. And the 3 Jiraiya "killed" weren't ressurected, they just were able to move again once the swords were pulled out of them.

I say this because this is actually the second time they showed us this Jutsu of Pain's.

The first time was in the very beginning of Shippuuden. When Akatsuki was taking Gaara. Remember the jutsu where Pain was able to take two bodies, and give them all of the abilities and part of the chakra of Itachi and Kisame.

I think what he's doing now is similar. These are dead bodies that he's infused with the powers of other ninja.

I think this is what the Rinnegan's real power is. Allowing the user to control all these bodies at once and to use the powers of others through them.

But the fake Itachi and Kisame didn't have the rinnegan in their eyes, while these fake bodies do. It is possible that he just "removed" it from the fake Itachi and Kisame. But why not for these...

[Archangel]

Hmmm the naruto anime really is getting better these days

And just in case someone is curious

Based upon the six Buddhist paths of Reincarnation, each body was named after one of the different "paths": Deva, Asura, Human, Animal, Preta, and Naraka. Each of these paths, or "plains," represent one of the realms a being is reborn into after death, determined by the accumulated karma of their past lives. While the two lower paths, Preta and Naraka, are hellish, and the two higher paths, Deva and Asura, are heavenly, all six are considered to be paths of suffering because they perpetuate the cycle of Reincarnation; the only way to break it and ascend to a higher state of existence is to attain enlightenment.

You'll keep finding more of these interesting tidbits as the series progresses, Pain doesn't call himself a God for nothing

[DarthEnderX]

But the fake Itachi and Kisame didn't have the rinnegan in their eyes, while these fake bodies do. It is possible that he just "removed" it from the fake Itachi and Kisame. But why not for these...

I think it's because Pain is himself controlling these bodies.

Whereas the first time, he made bodies for Itachi and Kisame, THEY were the ones controlling the bodies, but Pain clearly said it was HIS jutsu.

Which is why the Itachi body had the Sharingan, even though Itachi wasn't himself there

[Jessper]

So then you have to wonder if maybe Nagato is actually somewhere entirely different, so even if Jiraya, by some miracle, kills all of these bodies it would still not be over. It would be very cool if Jiraya pulls this off and kills all 6 only to be struck down by Nagato himself. I just get the feeling these fights won't last long enough for that, which is sad.

[DarthEnderX]

That wouldn't surprise me considering none of the 6 Pains looks anything like Nagato.

[Archangel]

But he's the descendant of the Sage of the 6 paths, so wouldn't a 7th body kinda ruin that?

[Buffalobiian]

But he's the descendant of the Sage of the 6 paths, so wouldn't a 7th body kinda ruin that?

Based upon the six Buddhist paths of Reincarnation, each body was named after one of the different "paths": Deva, Asura, Human, Animal, Preta, and Naraka. Each of these paths, or "plains," represent one of the realms a being is reborn into after death, determined by the accumulated karma of their past lives. While the two lower paths, Preta and Naraka, are hellish, and the two higher paths, Deva and Asura, are heavenly, all six are considered to be paths of suffering because they perpetuate the cycle of Reincarnation; the only way to break it and ascend to a higher state of existence is to attain enlightenment.

Shouldn't it make more sense for him to have walked all six paths of pain, and through pain, achieved enlightenment?

[DarthEnderX]

But he's the descendant of the Sage of the 6 paths, so wouldn't a 7th body kinda ruin that?

Eh, if he doesn't really fight with his main body, maybe it doesn't count. Maybe he can control 6 bodies at a time, so his own body is just laying comatose somewhere during this fight.