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    @Buff - I never really considered that as a straight fight, since Touma had help from Mikoto and the sisters, unless you considering ganging up on a person a straight fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    @Buff - I never really considered that as a straight fight, since Touma had help from Mikoto and the sisters, unless you considering ganging up on a person a straight fight.
    Right. I don't remember the exact details, only that Accel somehow missed Touma with the giant pillars and Touma punched him in the face. If Touma had significant help from everybody else though, then I agree that it wasn't all that "straight".

    (Just remembered that they screwed up his plasma bomb, so yeah. Accel got handicapped bad)

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    If I understand correctly, there are already quite a lot of level 4s in Academy city, which means there are all manner of powers as well. Considering how all level 5s are so famous, or at least much attention is paid to being level 5 even if the actual person behind the rank number was largely unknown to the population, it would be strange if there actually weren't a few official level 4s who hold themselves back in the examination to avoid being promoted to level 5. Sure, most people especially of that age would like nothing better than to belong to the glorious elite, but I'm sure there are some among them who'd think two steps ahead, especially since they need to be special to be so strong espers, so they can't be any Jane or John Does. I'd see certain advantages in being officially level 4 but in reality already level 5, all the more so if Shinta is correct and some espers try to climb ranks by proving they are stronger than those right above them. In short, there could be a level 4 with some non-vector power who could actually fight Accelerator. Not that I'd except such a person to appear in the story.
    I personally see the most merit being the 2nd strongest in Academy City. You're not targeted for being the "champion", but you also have the ease of mind that the only one officially stronger than you in fact isn't.

    If the top guy is seen as invincible (like Accel), then you might be the second alternative that everyone looks for instead. Since you're already stronger than Accel though, all you have to do is show how much of a power gap there is between #2 and #3, and they'll all try the next student in the pecking order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I personally see the most merit being the 2nd strongest in Academy City. You're not targeted for being the "champion", but you also have the ease of mind that the only one officially stronger than you in fact isn't.
    Yeah, if you care for any merit, then that would be a jolly choice. I was theorising about people who have no use for official recognition and develop themselves purely for their own satisfaction or personal goals. For such people official level 4 would be enough. It would already open the doors (because level 4 is already plenty strong), but they wouldn't be awesomely special level 5 who won't get a good night's sleep from all the buzz and hype. There are people like that, who want to stay in the background.

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    I really felt sorry for Mikoto this episode. It was expected, but I guess having her trump card defeated so easily by another person is quite shocking. Accelerator didn't even do anything because his reflection is automatic.

    I am surprised Mikoto did not get hit by her own projectile. Maybe Accelerator intentionally adjusted his reflect, because usually it redirects targeted projectiles in the exact same direction it was launched. He was just teasing her after all.

    I liked how such a cold researcher can be moved by something so simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I really felt sorry for Mikoto this episode. It was expected, but I guess having her trump card defeated so easily by another person is quite shocking. Accelerator didn't even do anything because his reflection is automatic.

    I am surprised Mikoto did not get hit by her own projectile. Maybe Accelerator intentionally adjusted his reflect, because usually it redirects targeted projectiles in the exact same direction it was launched. He was just teasing her after all.
    I think it's simply due to problems with tearing off a limb from our dear Mikoto. She's got plenty of spare clones to get an arm from, but no researcher would stick their neck out to repair that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I really felt sorry for Mikoto this episode. It was expected, but I guess having her trump card defeated so easily by another person is quite shocking. Accelerator didn't even do anything because his reflection is automatic.

    I am surprised Mikoto did not get hit by her own projectile. Maybe Accelerator intentionally adjusted his reflect, because usually it redirects targeted projectiles in the exact same direction it was launched. He was just teasing her after all.
    It seems like he usually alters the trajectory during an active battle. I guess that makes sense since the default mode would leave him little control.

    Seeing Mikoto's despair and utter defeat in this episode, it's no wonder she fell so hard in love with Touma, in her tsundere fashion, after he defeated Accelerator and thus voided the shift project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    It seems like he usually alters the trajectory during an active battle. I guess that makes sense since the default mode would leave him little control.
    So he normally sets a new default to +15 degrees for battle?

    The way he responded sounded like the reflect happened automatically while he was talking, so there shouldn't be any active control at all. I take it that Accel wasn't being sarcastic when he acted confused for a second.

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    I never thought this arc could be so incredibly boring the second time around. I hope it gets more interesting soon. I nearly started to skim this episode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    So he normally sets a new default to +15 degrees for battle?

    The way he responded sounded like the reflect happened automatically while he was talking, so there shouldn't be any active control at all. I take it that Accel wasn't being sarcastic when he acted confused for a second.
    I remember he "apologized" to either Misaka Imouto or some random chav, who got wounded by the default deflect, saying that he was still in his default state, suggesting he wasn't yet in his battle state. Or at least that's how I interpreted it. It also makes sense judging by the evidence we have seen: It looks very much like he first enjoys deflecting all attacks, making the opponent panic, and only then he goes forward himself to deal some damage. It was very pronounced in this Mikoto battle, but it did show quite well indeed in the previous Imouto fight as well. Obviously he couldn't do that if the enemy's first attack was send straight back immediately.

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    This week's episode summed up



    We already know the conclusion but i'm looking forward to see the journey. For example, the events that led Misaka to consider suicide was her only option left.

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    Smart. Dedicated. Perverted.

    Kuroko would make an awesome wife.

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    Poor Mikoto. She shouldn't have refused to eat the gel whatevers, though. It looks like her vigilante activity eats helluva lots of calories, so she could have used the carbohydrates. And it only seems to be getting harder in the future.

    Quite a nice contrast to Uiharu & Saten's usual silly everyday life and antics. Kuroko seems to be suffering mentally quite significantly due to Mikoto's troubles. She really loves her onee-sama.

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    Finally, ITEM makes its appearance!
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    Holy shit that was so boring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Holy shit that was so boring
    Fast forwarded through and through. That episode was equal to this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    Holy shit that was so boring
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    Fast forwarded through and through. That episode was equal to this
    I think this show has pretty much established itself already in such a way that the preview shows high action and thrill, yet when the episode actually comes out, it's 75% slow trudging and 25% action. I'd prefer at least 50-50, because no matter how much I try to like this, it's still a struggle all too regularly. I guess it would be better for a Kuroko fan, but, alas, I was never one.

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    This stuff is better than any fight Touma could pull off, since all he can do is talk to them and/or punch them.

    Mikoto's power, but particularly control is much better than any Index fights I remember, and probably even the previous Railgun adaptation. Funnily enough, this is largely because she isn't using her railgun move.

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