Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
so, Whitebeard is about more than just drugs, hookers, booze and earthquakes...

I don't think Kuma is dead, even if he himself would ask the government to kill him, they wouldn't waste his fruit and incredible power. he's just taking a time-out.
The guy there is kuma, we've seen him use Ursus Shock on Oars so it's got to be him

What he probably means is that the marines killed his mind and turned him into a puppet like all the other PXs