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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Everybody feels like they're sandbagging so far. There were more lasers flying around during the shabondy archipelago arc.
    I agree but only half. If you're implying that people are being lazy with their powers then I disagree. If you're saying that everyone needs to be something more in general and just go more all out, then I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireEmblem
    Also there's the matter of Sengoku's secret plan.
    Maybe Sengoku's plan involves Blackbeard. It's kind of odd that he has not mentioned anything about him being gone right after he was awarded the rank. Doubtful, but possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joker-kun
    Maybe Sengoku's plan involves Blackbeard. It's kind of odd that he has not mentioned anything about him being gone right after he was awarded the rank. Doubtful, but possible.
    I'm not 100% sure but i think i recall sengoku complaining about how he didn't know where blackbeard was

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    It's worse than that, if Blackbeard is a part of Sengoku's plan. Sengoku knows where he was, anyway.

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    I hope Blackbeard doesn't show up. That's just unnecessary.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    I hope Blackbeard doesn't show up. That's just unnecessary.
    How do you figure sports fan? I mean I agree he made his peace with ID and left so he shouldn't be showing up anytime again for a while. But I'm curious as to why you think that.

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    Cause it would be more interesting if Blackbeard's plans were something beyond the war taking place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Cause it would be more interesting if Blackbeard's plans were something beyond the war taking place.
    You know, i wouldn't be that surprised if this whole war was what Blackbeard had in mind all along when he captured Ace

    I mean this is all going so conveniently for him, it can't all just be a coincidence right?

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    I don't see how. Luffy was his original target. On the other hand, circumstances change. And good strategists change their plans to fit the circumstance.

    Blackbeard might not even want to show his face. Whitebeard will go out of his way to kill Blackbeard.
    "After all, I am strangely colored."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Cause it would be more interesting if Blackbeard's plans were something beyond the war taking place.
    Like someone on the last page said, I would enjoy if BB just used this as his chance to run off to the New World. WB is fighting at Marineford, Kaidou and Shanks are fighting one another... maybe he'll just go kill the other one and take their spot as Yonkou, or just use this opportunity to take some territory for himself.

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    I'm just wondering what the point of showing Blackbeard get owned by Magellan was. This means that Magellan will have to show up at Marineford. If not, then Oda could have just had Blackbeard beat Magellan.

    That fight/match is something that intrigues me very much. Magellan floored Blackbeard and his crew, yet Ace lost to BB. Is it the difference in fighting experience or what? Is Magellans fruit just better suited to fight BB, because he absorbs everything, including the poison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireEmblem
    That fight/match is something that intrigues me very much. Magellan floored Blackbeard and his crew, yet Ace lost to BB. Is it the difference in fighting experience or what? Is Magellans fruit just better suited to fight BB, because he absorbs everything, including the poison?
    Magellan was in a big hurry to capture the escapees. He basically told Blackbeard, "I don't have time to deal with this now" and immediately splattered him with goop. It was "almost" a surprise attack. You could almost see the look of "!" and "?" on Blackbeard's face.

    On the other hand, Ace confronted Blackbeard. They had a chat about their powers. Ace gave Blackbeard a chance to fight at full strength.

    Maybe Blackbeard "really" is stronger than Magellan, and maybe Ace is too. But the situations are too different to compare directly, I think.

    For contrast, I don't think Magellan would necessarily be an effective force on the current battlefield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireEmblem
    I'm just wondering what the point of showing Blackbeard get owned by Magellan was.
    ...only to get saved by Shiryuu later

    I think the whole point of that was showing that Blackbeard is a bit of a lucky idiot (despite his ambitious and thought out plans), much like Luffy. Blackbeard could have easily beaten Magellan if he had been more careful. Either way, fortune smiles on him and thats not good news for his enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash!
    ...only to get saved by Shiryuu later

    I think the whole point of that was showing that Blackbeard is a bit of a lucky idiot (despite his ambitious and thought out plans), much like Luffy. Blackbeard could have easily beaten Magellan if he had been more careful. Either way, fortune smiles on him and thats not good news for his enemies.
    He possesses the will of D after all

    If i had to guess i'd say that the final boss to Luffy's dream is either gonna be Blackbeard or Shanks himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    He possesses the will of D after all

    If i had to guess i'd say that the final boss to Luffy's dream is either gonna be Blackbeard or Shanks himself
    No the final boss will be the mountain bandit from chapter 1. Feel it in your bones, you know it to be true.

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    I considered it, but then i remember he was eaten

    But wait... he lived inside the sea kings stomach for 2 years while feeding on shanks arm and as so gaining his powers... after that he rose to fame in the shadows as Dragon's second in command and now awaits the time when he will be able to strike his foes and become King of the Bandits

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    @Arch: You mentioned you think Sanji is going to learn Okama Kempo on Kamakura Island in the Ep 419 thread. But, why? He fought with Mr 2 and they were pretty evenly matched. On the other hand, I saw some of the okama in the anime using something very similar to "death wink". That could be a seriously powerful tool for Sanji, especially since he has that distinctive curly eyebrow.

    Also, what's your theory about Chopper's powerup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    @Arch: You mentioned you think Sanji is going to learn Okama Kempo on Kamakura Island in the Ep 419 thread. But, why? He fought with Mr 2 and they were pretty evenly matched. On the other hand, I saw some of the okama in the anime using something very similar to "death wink". That could be a seriously powerful tool for Sanji, especially since he has that distinctive curly eyebrow.

    Also, what's your theory about Chopper's powerup?
    I said combine, as in getting the best out of both styles. And i wouldn't consider Death Wink to be a okama technique, more like something he came up with himself as a derivative of the hormone fruit

    As for my other theory i was referring to the newly discovered "awakened zoan type". It might be a bit of a stretch, but by going back to mother nature it may be possible for him to control that state which i would assume is something between his normal form and monster point.

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