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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Sasuke will win by some lame technicality like he did against Deidara. Still, this is a good fight so far.
    no, it's not brilliant fighting or tactics, or an "ace in the hole". it's lame technicalities that let him beat deidara...

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    Why are people dissing on Sasuke's abilities? Sasuke is extremely good. He is an Akatsuki level fighter for sure. Few people in the Naruto world could actually kill him. His problem is his overconfidense, I think. He's fought some high level guys and just barely won (with some luck, too). Now he's trying to move up and beat tougher guys, even though he barely beat the previous ones. His problem isn't skill, it's the fact that luck helped him win his previous battles, and it seems like that's what he'll be banking on this time. I guess Sasuke needs some quality wins to redeem himself. Oro was sick, Itachi let him win, Deidara was weak verses lightning, and it was a 4 on 1 with the 8 tails, but Sasuke is still a very skilled fighter.

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    Well according to data book 3 itachi only transfered the flames Tensha Fuuin - Amaterasu - x - Itachi Uchiha. As to why sasuke has susanoo I have no idea. This sharingan bullshit is killing the manga imo.
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    Does the manga writer have anything to do with the date book?

    Anyway, I'm with everyone on the Lightning Crown Heavyweight Champion of the Wooooooooooooooooorld! TM kicking the crap out of Sasuke is kind of nice. I'm kind of annoyed at the letting his arm get caught by the Amaterasu thing though. I'm hoping that he has a way to mitigate the damage he does, either by body flickering out of it, or by having the lightning shield he's using cause the flame to extinguish before it consumes his arm. If something to that effect doesn't happen, Sasuke'll have won in a non-gimmicky fashion.

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    Guys...this is what happened...

    Itachi put a seal on Sasuke that triggers an Amaterasu whenever Madara shows his face. Therefore, Madara has to keep his mask on in front of Sasuke.

    Sasuke's MS was enabled by killing his brother. So far, I'm going to assume that everyone with MS has access to the same (or at least most of the same) techniques, which is why Sasuke has Amaterasu and Susano. Sasuke also has Kakashi's space displacement jutsu, as seen when he used it to remove the Amaterasu he unleashed on Killerbee.

    If this is true, then Sasuke should have Tsukuyomi. Which would beg the question, why the hell hasn't he defeated everyone in the room already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Sasuke also has Kakashi's space displacement jutsu, as seen when he used it to remove the Amaterasu he unleashed on Killerbee.
    That was not space time displacement, he actually put the flames out, itachi did the same a couple of times, this should just be another ability of amaterasu same as with changing its shape and path.
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    @ Darkshadow: Your location is hilarious...sidestepping your gaze...You kids keep me living with funniness...Now back to the topic I agree with Darkshadow being that Sasuke doesn't have Kakashis eye tech he just simply put it out like Itachi did to him back when they were fighting. Now that would be too much if he did have it though and I actually like Sasuke.

    About Raikages arm...I don't think its just him arm he'll have to be worrying about. Amaterasu won't just stop there. If he could put the flames out with his speed thats one thing but with his speed I think he'll just make things worse because the wind created by his fast movements will just make it spread...or not.

    On a different note does anybody think its possible that Madara will come and rescue just Sasuke leaving behind his comrades?
    Action and Reaction are always equal and in opposite directions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow
    That was not space time displacement, he actually put the flames out, itachi did the same a couple of times, this should just be another ability of amaterasu same as with changing its shape and path.
    When did Itachi put Amaterasu out? He used it twice on Sasuke: once on Sasuke's fireball, and once on his finger wing (and Sasuke's "body" continued to burn after Sasuke did his replacement)
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    Sasuke's body is ash, and he escaped... I guess what's his face says so though. I concede.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pastor Cookies

    Fuck nuggets. Does anybody think its possible that Madara will come and rescue just Sasuke leaving behind his comrades?
    Only if he's fed up with waiting for his plan to take shape. If not then no he'll just have Juugo and the rest of them on his ass yelling @ him to give sasuke back.

    I'm actually more worried about other things. The main reason I'm concerned and deny the comparison of the four of those guys is because Kishi is giving Sasuke a Google like IPO growth in terms of his power level. At this rate he'll peak in no time and then what? He'll be a kage level at like age 2o and then he'll use those moves he's gotten over time. It's too much too fast. In a good character outline its best to have growth over time. Sasuke's has been way too fast.

    @assertn:
    I agree. I think everyone should be dead. That's another thing. Why the hell does he keep using the black flame over and over again against strong people? Didn't itachi give him like 4 of his moves after they fought? He's used nothing but the black flame.

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    When Tobi says he wants to be complete, he means he wants his eye back from Kakashi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    When Tobi says he wants to be complete, he means he wants his eye back from Kakashi.
    This is why i say the One Manga / Sleepy Fans combo sucks

    Go read binktopia's release, it gives a whole new meaning to the scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Chancellor
    Only if he's fed up with waiting for his plan to take shape. If not then no he'll just have Juugo and the rest of them on his ass yelling @ him to give sasuke back.

    Well Madara already said that its time for him to take action himself after Nagato died. Like I said early Chancellor the way things are looking now...team Taki are sitting ducks. Karin is in hiding while Suigetsu and Juugo are both being displayed on the wall as artpieces, while reinforcements just came unto the scene. Sasuke has to save his own ass at the moment. Madara seems as if he is only interested in Sasuke's well being and not the whole gang.

    I'm actually more worried about other things. The main reason I'm concerned and deny the comparison of the four of those guys is because Kishi is giving Sasuke a Google like IPO growth in terms of his power level. At this rate he'll peak in no time and then what? He'll be a kage level at like age 2o and then he'll use those moves he's gotten over time. It's too much too fast. In a good character outline its best to have growth over time. Sasuke's has been way too fast.

    To start things off this series has already passed its climax, if not its definitely getting closer to it.Your right about Sasuke's fast paced improvement though. I mean since the beginning of the series Sasuke has always been known to excel at extremely fast rates from training and from near death experiences...(which are basically almost all of his fights) At this rate Sasuke will peak in no time reaching kage level status...hell hes already there. Hes been compared to becoming stronger than Nagato and his potential and sharingan has been commented on by both Orochimaru and Madara stating that he has the potential to surpass Itachi and his eyes.

    Naruto's strength lays in his crazy chakra levels due to the fox, his abstract way of thinking, and his Jesus ability to transmute the hearts of the people around him...while Sasuke's strength comes from both his sharingan and...his ability to absorb experience as quick as hell and apply it on the fly. The latter in my opinion is Sasuke's true strength and I think a lot of people have overlooked this trait due to the eye candy of the sharingan being the primary focus of everyone around Sasuke. No matter how sloppy your tactics are the stronger the boss the more experience points you gain and Sasukes like a fucking +20 EXP amulet with the benefits of a saiyan.

    Why the hell does he keep using the black flame over and over again against strong people? Didn't itachi give him like 4 of his moves after they fought? He's used nothing but the black flame.
    At this point in the story the black flame is the most popular and effective offensive and NOW defensive attack at his disposal. The stronger ninjas are dispelling his Tsukuyomi techniques by pumping themselves with uber amounts of chakra or however the hell Raikage countered Sasuke's latest genjustu attempt on him.(Maybe you can give me an explanation on that) Another reason why I think Sasuke favors Amaterasu is because he learned he can put out the flames therefore making the technique more flexible adding his own creativity to how it is unleashed.
    Action and Reaction are always equal and in opposite directions..

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    Actually, it WAS officially stated that Itachi gave Sasuke all his eye techs:

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/11/

    So it looks like various MS do possess different eye techniques after all and Susanoo shouldn't be a surprise. Another thing is the sword Itachi had for Susanoo and the shield, which weren't supposed to be part of Susanoo I presume but physical objects Itachi "gave" to his technique somehow. (and they were both supposed to be very powerful)

    Sasuke generally favours amaterasu because he would own enemies too easily with tsukuyomi imo )))) besides, we might still see it in this very fight, after all we had amaterasu, now we have Susanoo and maybe tsukuyomi will come next, which leads to another question - what will twisted Sasuke's mind come up with as a torment place for his victims? Maybe he will place them alongside him in his traumatic past and will storytell them to death?

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    He already used Tsukuyomi against the 8 tails remember. He made spikes shoot out from all over the 8 tails body but the effects were cancelled by the 8 tails chakra. I still don't understand why Sasuke genjustu didn't work against the Raikage though.
    Action and Reaction are always equal and in opposite directions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkshadow
    That was not space time displacement, he actually put the flames out, itachi did the same a couple of times, this should just be another ability of amaterasu same as with changing its shape and path.
    If sasuke can remove the flames at will then why were you complaining about him not getting burned in the face?
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    Because, from what we have seen, putting the flames out is a pretty hard thing to do, puts lots of stress on the user and they flames don't go out instantly, they just grow smaller until they die out. Sasuke didn't even get a single mark on his face >_>.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandadice
    no, it's not brilliant fighting or tactics, or an "ace in the hole". it's lame technicalities that let him beat deidara...
    "Paper beats Rock" is not brilliant fighting tactics. It especially bugs me since the elemental strengths/weaknesses were never explored again. It was essentially introduced just for that one fight.

    I don't want Sasuke about to breath his last breath on the ground as the Raikage stands over him, then Sasuke smirks and reminds the Raikage of some dumb little fact pulled out of the ether causing him to fall over dead. Sasuke wins. Everybody rages. I stop reading the manga.

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