i didn't like the whole "the entire naruto world is centered on naruto and sasuke".. like, i realize he's the named character and all, so yeah story focus-wise it would make sense. but just coming out and actually stating that hes the center of the universe, in the manga.. that just seems like too much.
yeah, i second the Juugo laser beam thing. i saw that and I was like "this ain't dbz, this is naruto!"
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Basically any ninjas outside of Konoha are of negligable relevance to the overall past and future of the Naruto world.
This also makes Hashirama becoming the 1st Hokage over Madara even more hilarious. "Well I suppose if you insist, we can break our ancient feud and bring back an era of peace.... wait, Senju is chosen to lead again? Fuck you guys."
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What i find more interssting is that Sasuke i being refferd as a "true avenger".
So i he gets his revenge vs Konoha and the manages to live what next?
Will he get upset over the smallest things and just avenge the birds for singing etc
What i think also otherwise is that wich ever wins Naruto who is "good" or Sasuke "evil" may determine how the ninja world goes on.
Lets face it Naruto Kuuybi mode/sage mode (and he might have the sharingna cuz of itachis doing) is to imba. Sasuke managing to beat him would make him even more Imba.
Who says that when Naruto goes into Sage mode that he will be able to counter the Sharingan?Originally Posted by Logrus
But back on the chapter. Throughout the series, there has always been talks of the future taking it to the next level from the previous generation. There are always going to be geniuses, but as a whole the next generation will surpass the last. So first we had the Sannin and Team 7 is supposed to have surpassed them (still waiting on Sakura). But having the whole Senju vs Uchiha come back as Naruto vs Sasuke isn't that big of a shocker.
This is just a theory, but for one thing, we know that you can escape genjutsu by molding chakra in your brain to disrupt the genjutsu. Natural energy makes Naruto's chakra more potent, so it should be easier for him to disrupt the Sharingan's genjutsu. For another, Naruto can see natural energy (and maybe chakra) while in Sage Mode. That's how he found Pein. What I'm getting at is that Naruto has a way of seeing that Sasuke can't manipulate, unless he learns about natural energy.
It's obviously not confirmed, but I think it's plausible.
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So how does Pain fit into all of this? If he is a direct descendant of the sage, shouldnt he be one of Uchiha or Senju? (Unless the sage had more than 2 kids)
Given that Madara was bossing Pain around, how exactly did an Uchiha with his Sharingan gain superiority over someone with the Rinnegan? A descendant of someone who possesed only half the sage's traits surpassed the ability of the sage himself?
Madara is manipulating others with words, not with his sharingan, so it's hard to say he surpassed Pain ability-wise...
He was older and more experienced and he used Pain's past just like he used Sasuke's to make them help him achieve his own goals and that's pretty much there is to it imo.
Its a theory that itachi placed a Sharingan in naruto. Also the thing the guy said aboiut naruto being able to see chakra in sage mode. Also he can disable genjustus using only the kuuybi
I think this tale, like most of the things Madara says, is bullshit. Really, I take the things Madara says with a grain of salt. The Itachi thing was believable, but he flagrantly lied about the Kyuubi attack, and now he skews legends around to make his feud with Hashirama seem more epic.
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The elder son of the sage had rinnegan, not sharingan. Therefore it was possible for multiple paths to branch out which eventually led to Rinnegan, Byakugan, and Sharingan from that one son. Still wouldn't explain why the Hyuga clan was exempted from this history of bloodshed though.
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That makes alot more sense.
As for the Hyuga, a clan that descended from the elder son, they turned out to be very understanding since they whole heartedly embraced the leadership of the Senju. The Uchiha must have really hated the Hyuga for 'selling out'.
Yeah this is completely possible. Madara can't just be all interested in this tale for no reason. If he has some diabolical plan, and if it is the fate of the Senju and Uchiha to be rivals and fight it out, then wouldn't it be in his best interest right now to take out Naruto? Unless the fate is just that powerful, that his admiration for Senju wont allow him to kill a person that is projecting Senju Hashirama.
Unless this is a fake Uchiha Madara of course...
I'm going to go ahead and say that Sasuke has a plan that none of us realize yet. He is not really going after revenge on Konoha. I think he's only targeting Danzo, and perhaps something else that will be revealed to us at a later time.
Wishful thinking. I think it's something everybody would like to believe in after Sasuke disposing of Orochimaru, but now it's a bit different. Besides, if Sasuke has a great, good plan, then why have Naruto in the story in the first place?
Sasuke went bad, or at least - he should have!
Well in all honesty he probably has nothing against Naruto, (other then the whole being a jinchuuriki thing) so no real reason to "take him out" right now. He's also mentioned that he didn't think it would be that easy. (but, hell... if he can just pop out of nowhere in front of someone why not pop into Naruto's house in the middle of the village during his down time when no ones guarding him) I think right now after Nagato's betrayal he wants to gauge how dangerous Naruto's "other power" is to his goal.
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Well I would think that the fact that Naruto managed to make Nagato betray Madara is enough to trigger some kind of higher threat level to ANY plan that he may have. The fact that Naruto managed to do that should be enough to gauge how dangerous his power is.
He's committing the same mistake that Orochimaru made when he didn't kill Naruto in the forest of death. We know that was a mistake because Orochimaru himself stated so in his fight with Jiraiya and Tsunade.
AFter it was revealed what Ithachi did, I tend to think the same way. I tend to think Sasuke may still be good. But unfortunately, right now the flow is, Sasuke is BAD ASS.
Just like Ithachi was when he was still alive. BAD ASS.
If what you mean by BAD ASS is being bad and an ass, then you are right.
Peace.
Wouldn't that mean that Pain is the true original blood descendant? Since he had the original rinnegan I would think he's the true family member of the sage path.
I really don't see how his eyes could get further and further diluted and create new paths and powers along the family trees that are "created" from the rinnegan. And that seems to be a running theory with you Assert N. How would one eye technique branch off and create new ones when none of them even look the same. In fact the only similarity between all of them is the fact that they can see chakra and chakra colors.
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Pretty much, yeah.
That's not really a theory of mine. It's basically been stated by Madara.I really don't see how his eyes could get further and further diluted and create new paths and powers along the family trees that are "created" from the rinnegan. And that seems to be a running theory with you Assert N. How would one eye technique branch off and create new ones when none of them even look the same. In fact the only similarity between all of them is the fact that they can see chakra and chakra colors.
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