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    The 4th mizukage was formerly a host for the 3-tailed bijuu that was swimming freely in that lake. I'd like to learn how the bijuu escaped... also, keep in mind one of the former mizukages was Madara, although I doubt he was that kid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    last thing. If Mifune isn't a bad guy, he's stupid.
    Danzou was skipped on the hokage draft so many times (the 3rd, the 4th, Jiraya, Tsunade), and all he managed to do so far during his regency is to escape the village when it's in ruined (after he did nothing to defend the village when it was attacked) and they make him king of the ninja?
    sure, he gets point for extra effort, but that's like picking a starving midget to play in the All-star games just because you feel bad for not letting on the field during the play-offs.
    I think you may be onto something with Mifune being in cahoots with the Big Bad. There's absolutely no way he'd make someone who has been a Kage for roughly a day the Emperor of Ninja Land. That's just too ridiculous, even by Kishimoto's standards.

    I want to give him the benefit of the doubt.

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    It would be ironic if Danzou telling the Kages that Madara was in charge of Akatsuki is what convinced the Kages to make Madara/Danzou the King of the Kages. It makes sense for someone with as bad a reputation as Madara to have a cleaner public face.
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    This chapter was pretty good and the previous chapter was pretty good too, you guys just nitpick too much.
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    The top frame of the last page is my current favorite piece from this series from the past few months.
    I agree, I was going to say as much but you beat me to it.
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    And now Danzo might become the fucking undisputed Emperor of Ninja Land. This totally eclipses the stupidity of him becoming Hokage in the first place. This is just ridiculous
    I really don't see the problem here, since Konoha does have the only remaining JInchuuriki that alone is enough reason to make the Hokage leader of the alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I really don't see the problem here, since Konoha does have the only remaining JInchuuriki that alone is enough reason to make the Hokage leader of the alliance.
    How do you figure? If the point is to protect the last Jinchuuriki, there's nothing in it for the other nations (except the Sand, since Gaara might want to help out). If the point is to defeat Akatsuki, the most capable leader should be chosen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    some points of interest:

    2. also page 09, I never thought the 4th Kazakage was so young, he looks no more than 35, which is awfully young to have a 13 years old son and still be kage (even if you don't consider Temari and Kankaru as his children, it's young).
    Well, to be fair, they live in a society where they could die at any moment, so starting to have children at about 19 (if he is 35, and Temari is 3 years older than Gaara) isn't too much of a stretch. I don't see any problem with that.

    On another note, I don't see Raikage letting this shit fly. It seems like he could see what Dazou was up to. Hopefully he is smarter than he acts, and maybe ends up being a leader in the resistance, as I could totally see Naruto hiding out there in the company of Omoi and Karui, and possibly being trained be Killerbee at one point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    This chapter was pretty good and the previous chapter was pretty good too, you guys just nitpick too much.

    I agree, I was going to say as much but you beat me to it.

    I really don't see the problem here, since Konoha does have the only remaining JInchuuriki that alone is enough reason to make the Hokage leader of the alliance.
    It also seemed that through all of the finger-pointing that went on in the meeting, Konoha wasn't really mentioned much as having done any evil deeds with Akatsuki.

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    Who, if anybody, is Danzou's spy in Akatsuki? Madara has only revealed his identity to Sasuke, Kisame, Konan, Pein, and Zetsu. I can't really picture Sasuke, Pein, or Konan being a spy for Danzou, and Konan didn't confirm Madara's identity to Naruto. That leaves Kisame, and Zetsu. Or no one.
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    Jiraiya figured it out....
    Naruto and then Kakashi and Yamato found out from the 4th....
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    Who, if anybody, is Danzou's spy in Akatsuki? Madara has only revealed his identity to Sasuke, Kisame, Konan, Pein, and Zetsu. I can't really picture Sasuke, Pein, or Konan being a spy for Danzou, and Konan didn't confirm Madara's identity to Naruto. That leaves Kisame, and Zetsu. Or no one.

    Who said Danzou had a spy in Akatsuki? Did I miss something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdula
    I really don't see the problem here, since Konoha does have the only remaining JInchuuriki that alone is enough reason to make the Hokage leader of the alliance.
    lol really, man? Might makes right?

    North Korea claims to have an arsenal of WMDs. I guess we should make them the overseer of the UN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    lol really, man? Might makes right?

    North Korea claims to have an arsenal of WMDs. I guess we should make them the overseer of the UN.
    Well, it can also be because everyone knows Konoha has the last bijuu that the akatsuki is yet to collect. Therefore, they hold the last card to use against them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Jiraiya figured it out....
    Naruto and then Kakashi and Yamato found out from the 4th....
    Ah, good catch. Kakashi told Sai to send a message to the Hokage. That must be the message Danzou got while on his way to the meeting. The timelines didn't fit, without Sai's message, since neither Kakashi nor Yamato talked to Danzou after finding out about the Fourth.

    Danzou didn't seem too impressed by it though, heh. "It's just an update"

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    I can't believe that a shady character like Danzou is going to be the Eisenhower of the ninja allied forces. This Mifune guy is clearly not a "neutral" party. He must owe Danzou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    Who said Danzou had a spy in Akatsuki? Did I miss something?
    Naww, you didn't miss anything. I missed the part where Kakashi told Sai to send a message about Madara to the Hokage. Without that message, the only way the Hokage could have known who leads Akatsuki was with a spy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    Well, it can also be because everyone knows Konoha has the last bijuu that the akatsuki is yet to collect. Therefore, they hold the last card to use against them.
    Still don't see how that gives Danzo any authority. Surely someone with such a great force should be kept in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XanBcoo
    Still don't see how that gives Danzo any authority. Surely someone with such a great force should be kept in check.
    I think its pretty obvious that Danzou and Mifune are working together. That should be enough to throw your argument out the window. Logic need not apply when conspiring is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmanj
    Well, to be fair, they live in a society where they could die at any moment, so starting to have children at about 19 (if he is 35, and Temari is 3 years older than Gaara) isn't too much of a stretch. I don't see any problem with that.
    well, probably, I guess so, I just though that Gaara's father was around 50, like most kages (or maybe 30 is the normal age, seeing the summit of the leaders).

    But, there's still the matter of the 3rd kazakage (Sasori's stupid puppet) who mysteriously vanished from the village a few years back ("more than ten years ago")

    Gaara was the demon carrier since he was born, right? which means that his father was hokage when he was born (they wouldn't put the demon in just any child, right?).
    Throw in some speculations about the time frame in which the 3rd kazakage went missing, and it seems that the 4th was Kazakage also at a very young age, so why are the council of kages so surprised by his (Gaara's) young age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidnne
    I think its pretty obvious that Danzou and Mifune are working together. That should be enough to throw your argument out the window. Logic need not apply when conspiring is going on.
    Yeah, I already acknowledged that. I was just replying to Abdula, who seems to think it makes perfect sense otherwise.

    (It does not)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    well, probably, I guess so, I just though that Gaara's father was around 50, like most kages (or maybe 30 is the normal age, seeing the summit of the leaders).

    But, there's still the matter of the 3rd kazakage (Sasori's stupid puppet) who mysteriously vanished from the village a few years back ("more than ten years ago")

    Gaara was the demon carrier since he was born, right? which means that his father was hokage when he was born (they wouldn't put the demon in just any child, right?).
    Throw in some speculations about the time frame in which the 3rd kazakage went missing, and it seems that the 4th was Kazakage also at a very young age, so why are the council of kages so surprised by his (Gaara's) young age?

    You got me on that one, but Gaara is like only 16. Who knows how long his dad was Kazekage before he was born? He would still be in his early 20's, assuming he's around his mid-thirties, which is a lot more mature than 16 in most cases. Hell, if he were in the U.S., he'd barely have a driver's license.

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