Bleach 230

[The Chancellor]

Nice ep.
But they also have the potential to ruin it all.

How? This is epic in terms of story. I think they have to have something really weird or off happen in the story to have it ruined.

- the shinigami are going to have to come up with a new way to defeat them or bring them back. Even the Old man captain
- They have no powers, they're real life samurai now.
- The character design is epic for each one of the spirits
- They're basically walking bankais in raw power form.

I see few ways the producers can send this down the wrong path.

Edit: Also I'm guessing the little kid twins in the beginning are one of the dual blade swords. And guessing by Shunsuis reaction (just a guess) at the end when the last ones were walking away from their former owners, he wasn't surprised meaning his reiatsu or release probably didn't work before everyone else was trying and, we didn't see any spirit walk away from his. And obviously he's one of the only ones that has a dual type sword.

[David75]

How? This is epic in terms of story. I think they have to have something really weird or off happen in the story to have it ruined.

- the shinigami are going to have to come up with a new way to defeat them or bring them back. Even the Old man captain
- They have no powers, they're real life samurai now.
- The character design is epic for each one of the spirits
- They're basically walking bankais in raw power form.

I see few ways the producers can send this down the wrong path.

Edit: Also I'm guessing the little kid twins in the beginning are one of the dual blade swords. And guessing by Shunsuis reaction (just a guess) at the end when the last ones were walking away from their former owners, he wasn't surprised meaning his reiatsu or release probably didn't work before everyone else was trying and, we didn't see any spirit walk away from his. And obviously he's one of the only ones that has a dual type sword.

Well the Shinigami have their swordmanship, fast moves and kidou. But it's true that without the help of their zanpaktou, they're a lot less powerful.

Regarding the ability to screw an arc, everything is possible.

[The Chancellor]

Well the Shinigami have their swordmanship, fast moves and kidou. But it's true that without the help of their zanpaktou, they're a lot less powerful.

They have those to rely on yes. You have to admit though, with the thing that made them the most powerful, their key strength, against them in pure power form it'll be much harder to take them down or get them back. What I'm wondering is how they'll do it? Do they have to talk to them one on one with each like Ichigo did? Do they have to beat them hands down and make them listen to them again? It should be interesting. This could be the best bleach arc I've ever seen. In fact I think making this filler, is a major career mistake for Kubo. It can easily trump the bount arc and in terms of story, for me at least, the current Espada arc.

It's just a great long over due concept to play with in my opinion. I'm actually wondering what happened to the old mans zanpakto. Or the old man in general. Muramasa said that he isn't joining them. Is he holding him hostage? Does he have his zanpakto specially trapped with plans for it? Because they kind of just had him shocked when those three showed up at his office and then let it alone. And we didn't see his zanpakto I don't think.

By the way they show everyone's spirit form with the shinigami at the end matched up side by side. Most of them at least.

[DarthEnderX]

They have those to rely on yes. You have to admit though, with the thing that made them the most powerful, their key strength, against them in pure power form it'll be much harder to take them down or get them back.

I think it depends entirely on the shinigami in question. They have definitely shown us Shinigami who pretty much don't use their zanpatou's because they are Kidou specialist. And their zanpaktou usually just gives them access to another, unique spell.

But someone, like, say, Byakuya, who can blow shit up with white lightning and bind shit with barriers and light prisons, can probably fight just fine.

[The Chancellor]

I think it depends entirely on the shinigami in question. They have definitely shown us Shinigami who pretty much don't use their zanpatou's because they are Kidou specialist.

The higtest and most experienced ones should be fine. Most of the time we only see the lowbies using shikai anyway. Kyoraku for example doesn't release for hardly anything or anyone. He doesn't need too. But, you also have to consider that these things have pure power, so it should be hard even for the high level ones to take down. What I'm curious about is why they are being set free? How did muramasa convince them to turn on them and break free? Because most of the spirits seem like they're just sick of being controlled, but we don't know yet.

In fact, Kurotsuchi and Kyoraku didn't seem fazed or surprised at all when they found out. Kurotsuchi just seemed like he found it interesting. So maybe he has a plan.