Zabimaru is in this episode, look at the match up at the ending of the episode. He is the one with the red hair that attacked the shinigami, along with Rukia's zanpaktou and a few others.Originally Posted by UChessmaster
Also I have a question, does anyone know Yourichi's Zanpaktou name or even yachiru's?
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Both are unknown at this point.
Unless i`m missing a scene, the ones that attack the shinigamis are
Kazeshini (Hisagi)
Tobiune (Hinamori)
Hozukimaru (Ikaku)
Sode no Shirayuki (Rukia)
So no... i don`t think Zabimaru appeared, wich leads me to beleive he DOES has a diferent shape or is not among them for some reason, also note he does NOT appears on the ending song but the released sword does appears.
Last edited by UChessmaster; Wed, 07-29-2009 at 06:27 PM.
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Always thought Senbonzakura was the name of an attack from Byakuya, not the actual name of his sword. :/ OH well, as long as this is an awesome arc.
Also, didnt Zangetsu say that a Shinigami and Zanpakuto cannot be at odds with one another and if they are, their power is dropped in half or something? Back when Ichigo was learning Bankai or something?
It seems as though, Ichigo is the only one who communicates with his Zanpakuto.
I really want to see a physical form of Zangetsu and have all the other Shinigami be like "WOW! Ichigo has the #1 awesome Bankai/Zanpakuto".
You are absolutely right I Had Hozukimaru in mind for whatever reason when you asked about zabimaru, sorry.
___---------------------------- "THE DROPOUT CREW"--------------------------------________Deblas, IfingHateTonTon, RyougaZell, dragonrage.________
________ we may fuck up alot but we always pull thru.
Nice ep.
It's strange because they potentially could do better with these filler eps than with the original arc. But they also have the potential to ruin it all.
I don't know what you all think, but for some reason this zanpaktou rebelion is linked to the shinigami being too weak.
Ichigo and friends being up to their level, other fights including arancar were they have great troubles being strong enough etc...
Since Zampaktous die with their master, and so many shinigami did lose in battles they shouldn't, you can understand why they would try to escape their master and try to protect themselves.
After the Soul Society arc, I've always thought that except the Commander, the Gotei 13 is quite weak.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
i totally agree with that.that's why we shouldn't take these forms seriously and just wait and watch what will happen next,may be it will all be an illusion or a spell made by the Evil guy or something,i don't know,we will have to wait and see.
I get the distinct impression that not everyone communicates face to face with their Zanpaktou. Some of them don't recognize the forms of their Zanpaktou because they've never seen them before.
Someone mentioned in the thread for the previous episode that Kubo himself did the character designs for this arc.
Hisagi clearly stated he hates his zanpaktou's form.
Yumichika is forced to hide his bankai and also has some kind of hatred for it.
Madarame refuses to show his bankai because he doesn't want to get responsibilities and lose his fun when fighting.
Zaraki Kenpachi doesn't give a damn about his zanpaktou, since he's so uber powerful he doesn't even need its abilities. only Ichigo did push him far enough, that in the end he was into asking its name.
So the point may be right there, as you pinpointed it.
Most shinigami aren't close enough to their zanpaktou, don't care, fear them, or hate them.
There's no fusion, no deep bond. They're mainly used as mere weapons.
Ichigo is the only example we know of deep bond beetween the shinigami and their zanpaktou, probably explaining how well he did in the SS arc, although he was inexperienced and less powerful.
Toushiro might be an example of some communication, altough probably at a much lower level.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
i'd have to disagree with that... most if not all of the death gods are hundreds of years old and i find it impossible to believe that ALL of these people have weak relationships with their swords. We've seen points where various characters have either atempted or had actual conversations w/ their swords... now i don't care who you are but you go into battle enough with the same people (some times it just has to be once) a very strong bond is formed... just ask war vets.
Now to address their forms... i'm not 100% on this so i'll need confirmation but wasn't it stated that the physical manifestiation of a death gods sword reflected upon their own soul? if that's the case maybe all of these guys are reflections on Muramasa's soul?
also i'd like to know where Hanataro is.... we saw his shikai! even if it was just in a filler arc... also kenryu and his partner (forgot is name)
How? This is epic in terms of story. I think they have to have something really weird or off happen in the story to have it ruined.
- the shinigami are going to have to come up with a new way to defeat them or bring them back. Even the Old man captain
- They have no powers, they're real life samurai now.
- The character design is epic for each one of the spirits
- They're basically walking bankais in raw power form.
I see few ways the producers can send this down the wrong path.
Edit: Also I'm guessing the little kid twins in the beginning are one of the dual blade swords. And guessing by Shunsuis reaction (just a guess) at the end when the last ones were walking away from their former owners, he wasn't surprised meaning his reiatsu or release probably didn't work before everyone else was trying and, we didn't see any spirit walk away from his. And obviously he's one of the only ones that has a dual type sword.
Last edited by The Chancellor; Fri, 07-31-2009 at 02:47 AM.
Well the Shinigami have their swordmanship, fast moves and kidou. But it's true that without the help of their zanpaktou, they're a lot less powerful.
Regarding the ability to screw an arc, everything is possible.
All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening. And then: Golf.
They have those to rely on yes. You have to admit though, with the thing that made them the most powerful, their key strength, against them in pure power form it'll be much harder to take them down or get them back. What I'm wondering is how they'll do it? Do they have to talk to them one on one with each like Ichigo did? Do they have to beat them hands down and make them listen to them again? It should be interesting. This could be the best bleach arc I've ever seen. In fact I think making this filler, is a major career mistake for Kubo. It can easily trump the bount arc and in terms of story, for me at least, the current Espada arc.
It's just a great long over due concept to play with in my opinion. I'm actually wondering what happened to the old mans zanpakto. Or the old man in general. Muramasa said that he isn't joining them. Is he holding him hostage? Does he have his zanpakto specially trapped with plans for it? Because they kind of just had him shocked when those three showed up at his office and then let it alone. And we didn't see his zanpakto I don't think.
By the way they show everyone's spirit form with the shinigami at the end matched up side by side. Most of them at least.
Last edited by The Chancellor; Fri, 07-31-2009 at 11:29 PM.
I think it depends entirely on the shinigami in question. They have definitely shown us Shinigami who pretty much don't use their zanpatou's because they are Kidou specialist. And their zanpaktou usually just gives them access to another, unique spell.
But someone, like, say, Byakuya, who can blow shit up with white lightning and bind shit with barriers and light prisons, can probably fight just fine.
The higtest and most experienced ones should be fine. Most of the time we only see the lowbies using shikai anyway. Kyoraku for example doesn't release for hardly anything or anyone. He doesn't need too. But, you also have to consider that these things have pure power, so it should be hard even for the high level ones to take down. What I'm curious about is why they are being set free? How did muramasa convince them to turn on them and break free? Because most of the spirits seem like they're just sick of being controlled, but we don't know yet.
In fact, Kurotsuchi and Kyoraku didn't seem fazed or surprised at all when they found out. Kurotsuchi just seemed like he found it interesting. So maybe he has a plan.
Last edited by The Chancellor; Sun, 08-02-2009 at 01:59 PM.
Me Wants Zaraki Kenpachi to whoop some ass
y? He's the most boring character in the entire series dude. And he doesn't even know the name of his sword.
*gasp* Blasphemy!
Zaraki is like my favourite character in the show!
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that must be why I got neg repped for the comment. I don't know if he's so strong, then Kubo made a mistake letting Ichigo beat him in the past. And either it was a mistake and Zaraki let him win, or Ichigo work his ass off for it.
lol someone neg repped you for that?
I don't think ive neg repped anyone since i registered here, atleast none that i can remember ^_^
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