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    I don't see what wrong containing a debate that wont end into it's own threadwhen I didn't find a specific one about it.

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    Danzou is to mandara what Darth Sidious is to Senator Palatine.

    Honestly at this point I don't see how there could be any debate that Danzou isn't Mandara and it kind of makes sense in that he'd be playing both sides. Just like how Palpatine had the entire separatist fleet run to Coursesant just to kidnap himself to secure his innocence Mandara sends pein to konoah so he can finally take power which makes getting naruto a lot easier since he can keep him in the village and limit his travel.

    If you need any other proof take a look at these two manga pages.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/455/17/

    They both have the same hair style. If that's not enough proof in manga terms I don't know what is.

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    Your thread title needs to change.

    I'm thinking of it more like something is attached to his head, the eye looks out of place, sort of like Voldemort did with Quirell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobsterMagnet
    Danzou is to mandara what Darth Sidious is to Senator Palatine.

    Honestly at this point I don't see how there could be any debate that Danzou isn't Mandara and it kind of makes sense in that he'd be playing both sides. Just like how Palpatine had the entire separatist fleet run to Coursesant just to kidnap himself to secure his innocence Mandara sends pein to konoah so he can finally take power which makes getting naruto a lot easier since he can keep him in the village and limit his travel.

    If you need any other proof take a look at these two manga pages.

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/397/03/

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/455/17/

    They both have the same hair style. If that's not enough proof in manga terms I don't know what is.
    The only thing these pages show is that both Danzou and Madara are old (so nothing new really)... and that they both have a sharingan in their right eye. BUT Danzou's sharingan has got those "strain" lines in his eye, which might suggest that his eye is NOT his natural eye and is a transplant. I can't remember wether we ever saw this with Kakashi or any other sharingan user UNLESS mangekyou sharingan was used and with Danzou it's just... sharingan :P

    Imo Kishi is fooling us into thinking Danzou is Madara, but I might be dead wrong of course

    as for hair style - maybe they visit the same barber

    EDIT: to above - you did not think Kabuto would betray Oro? Even Oro suspected Kabuto of betrayal like at least twice... First time was in chuunin arc I think, when Oro said sth like "If you want to stop me, you should do it now Kabuto" and the other time was encounter with Tsunade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LobsterMagnet
    Danzou is to mandara what Darth Sidious is to Senator Palatine.
    That is a very dangerous thought. Whilte I don't personally like it (I still like to think that Marada is Tobi reborn in Obito's body - - how? just use someone that has the power over life and death - PAINE), we can expand on you're comment alittle to explain how this could be so.

    Dang, I'm not up on my Star Wars to explain this correcty, but I'll give it a shot.

    Each has to play their part FULLY or be discovered that they are gunning for the same purpose. The Senator played his political lie to gain totaritarian control over the Senate. The same could be said for Madara being Danzou - lying about his arm and having bandaged his eye. After all, Danzou has been in a position where he's likely NOT had to challenge his Ninja skillset in a long, long time. And these arrands to get Orochimaru's research are just things to lead the reader and the village off the path of recognizing the truth.

    Danzou doesn't even have to be Madara exactly. He could be a special shadow clone of Madara. The point here is that Madara has more than 1 life time with the Sharingran to acquire jitsu (something that Orochimaru was lusting after for some reason) and as such there really is no telling what the powers of him are.

    I like the idea someone posted here in terms of why it was imperitive that Naturo stay in the village. Not for Naruto's own safety, or so that "Root" can keep an eye on him, it's so that Akatsuki can find him easily and claim the last of the the tailed beasts.

    The other question was "Why kill the messenger frog?"
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/17/. . Of course it's easier to explain outcomes in retrospect, but I beleive that the action was done so that Paine would HAVE to turn the village practically upside down to discover Naruto's training location. If Paine had found him early (and quite likely would have), the village would not have been laid waste to and as such the Hidden Village of the Leaf would be in a very different state, as would the 5th Hokage.

    A better comparison might be:
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/17/
    Last edited by 12345p; Fri, 07-10-2009 at 07:00 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 12345p
    The other question was "Why kill the messenger frog?"
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/17/. . Of course it's easier to explain outcomes in retrospect, but I beleive that the action was done so that Paine would HAVE to turn the village practically upside down to discover Naruto's training location. If Paine had found him early (and quite likely would have), the village would not have been laid waste to and as such the Hidden Village of the Leaf would be in a very different state, as would the 5th Hokage.


    A better comparison might be:
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/17/
    Uh, Pain had already found out where Naruto was before he destroyed the village. He leveled the village because Tsunade pissed him off and he decided to teach her a lesson.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam98034
    Most likely they were working together, but Danzo betrayed him. Everything would make sense with that.
    Yeah someone threw that theory out there before.
    Has anyone played the brothers scenario, yet? Did we ever find out if Madara's brother died? What if Danzo and Tobi are brothers, each sharing an eye?
    Yes someone played the brothers scenario. Yes Madara's brother died.

    Btw, this is completely off subject, but why on Earth did Madara help annihilate the Uchihas? Why would he care if they rebelled? Itachi wanted peace when his clan was brooding for war, so he did what he did. But wouldn't Madara want the coup to happen so that the Uchihas could be in charge?
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/07/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/08/
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/399/09/
    Last edited by Abdula; Fri, 07-10-2009 at 09:21 PM.
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